Miss Rosie!!

Minx · June 2011

This is Rosie. She's a sugar bars double bred AQHA registered Flaxen red roan four year old mare. She's my new drill/queens/horsemanship horse. She's tall and lanky and georgeous!! <img src="http://i51.tinypic.com/154dp50.jpg"; alt="http://i51.tinypic.com/154dp50.jpg"; class="bb-image" /> <img src="http://i54.tinypic.com/2nuu8ox.jpg"; alt="http://i54.tinypic.com/2nuu8ox.jpg"; class="bb-image" />

Rock_N_Roll_Queen90 · June 2011

*backs a horse trailer up to Vampy's barn* Somebody distract Vamp while I steal the prettyful horse! lol

lovefrompaige · June 2011

Wow, shes mighty purty there sheldon ^^

Minx · June 2011

now now rockie! No steaking of le Rosie

Rock_N_Roll_Queen90 · June 2011

Aw fine! Sheesh,lol

Garnet · June 2011

where was that pic taken? 0.0 that's not your fence/yard! lol! I must come to your house and see her soon

She gorgeous!

Minx · June 2011

Its the barn where i bought her from LOL

Garnet · June 2011

Ah hah! i knew that was not your yard! score 1 for garney

how is miss SLF and mr I cant stand him?

Minx · June 2011

Broken for good *evil laugh*

Garnet · June 2011

lol!!! *hi5* brian txted her the other day asking about it and she said it was for good but i was still kinda "hmmmm..." on it xD anyways. yeeea...

Minx · June 2011

Well so far she's been good on the promise.

Coconayr · July 2011

Oooooh, is this the horse you somewhat told me about? Lmao

She's beautiful

Mileysmybaby · July 2011

awww!!!!!!!!!!!!! <333333333 her!!! She is SOO pretty! I

roans!

Garnet · July 2011

Sadly Vampy has decided to get rid of Rosie =/ Just thought i'd tell you guys since Vampy hasnt been online in so long xD

Minx · July 2011

I had a montho try her out and at one point i was completely set of finishing the deposit on her but some issues have come up with her that caused me to back out of the deal on her

Garnet · July 2011

Vampy! I need a SUPER GOOD picture of Ein 0.0

SC`s Stars II · July 2011

Ooooo how pretty! That's a beautiful coloring! *is jealous*

Mileysmybaby · July 2011

what?! Il buy her! lol

Minx · July 2011

I did end up buyin her. Her papers are being shipped now

im gonna jump her

Mileysmybaby · July 2011

you ride english too?! lol. awesome!

Minx · July 2011

Her issue is that she doesnt rate herself... she has ONE speed for every gait and its FLYING. But ive got someone helpin me with slowing her down and calming her down. And i was also told jumping might help her learn to rate herself a little so yea. English xD

Mileysmybaby · July 2011

yuck! lol jk :P

Minx · July 2011

They told me trot her for at least 60 days to slow her down a bit

Mileysmybaby · July 2011

ic. lol

SC`s Stars II · July 2011

If you're looking to work with your horse on slowing down a gait, try ground poles...lots and lots of ground poles. That's how my trainer worked with my aunt's horse. It forces them to control their steps. It might help your horse

Minx · July 2011

Ill try that tomorrow!! Sounds like a good idea to me lol

Jackdaw · July 2011

VampireVenom wrote:

i was also told jumping might help her learn to rate herself a little

No, no, no, 100X NO. That is probably THE worst idea I have ever heard. If you follow this advice, you are just going to end up with an even rushier horse and most likely injure yourself or your mare in the process. If you want to calm her down the first thing you need to do is look at your feeding regime. If she's getting too much grain, too much alfalfa, ect. that could definitely be contributing to the problem. Secondly, if you are doing any sort of gaming or speed work with this horse you need to give it a rest for awhile. She is going to need to go back to the basics and learn to only go the speed you specify. You need to also make sure that she has a VERY solid whoa. A runaway horse is extremely dangerous and if she hasn't run off with you yet you're lucky, because it seems to me she may be headed that direction. How solid is her stop? Will she stay in gait for you? If you ask for a walk will she maintain a walk until cued to increase speed? If not, that is the first thing I would work on. Ask her for a quiet, controlled walk. If she attempts to break gait and go into either a trot or a canter take her in a tight circle immediately until she calms down and returns the the pace that you set. Do this until she will reliably stay at a walk. Then repeat the same exercise at a trot. This may take quite a few sessions to accomplish. When she reaches the point in her training that she will stop reliably and walk and trot at a consistent pace dictated by you only then should you progress into cantering her. By canter I do not mean letting her run all out in full gallop like she just broke from the gate at the derby (something I'm assuming she has gotten away with in the past and will try to get away with again.). Before you ask her to canter, I would long trot her for quite some time, circling, changing directions and just generally trying to get her focused and engaged. When she is calm, relaxed and listening to your cues only then should you ask her to canter. Make sure you have light contact with the reins and are ready to take corrective measures if she tries to run off with you. Give her the cue to canter and as soon as you feel her building speed and getting out of hand break her back down to the trot and circle, circle, circle. Once she calms down and starts listening again ask her to canter. If she runs off with you again, go back to circling at the trot. If it's impossible to break her down from canter to trot once she takes off I have another method that may work but I would try this first. I believe I saw some someone mention ground poles? Ground poles can also be helpful to rate speed and teach a horse to move in a rhythmic, consistent pace. However, I would still work on the things I listed above before implementing ground poles. Otherwise, I believe she would probably just learn to tear across them at lightening speed and not really gain anything for it. But what ever you do, no jumping and no speed events. That will only compound the problem further and you will end up with a truly dangerous and mentally fried horse. Just a bad idea all around. I would also strongly recommend you find a competent trainer or instructor to help you along. As this could potentially turn into a real problem if not handled correctly.

MadDingo · July 2011

If you want to calm her down the first thing you need to do is look at your feeding regime. If she's getting too much grain, too much alfalfa, ect. that could definitely be contributing to the problem.

This was the problem with Some horses I knew. Once they were taken off a lot of grain they slowed down a lot and mellowed out more. (Not saying it cured them though as they were retired cart horses)

Jackdaw · July 2011

Mad Dingo wrote:

If you want to calm her down the first thing you need to do is look at your feeding regime. If she's getting too much grain, too much alfalfa, ect. that could definitely be contributing to the problem. 

 This was the problem with Some horses I knew. Once they were taken off a lot of grain they slowed down a lot and mellowed out more. (Not saying it cured them though as they were retired cart horses)

Exactly, diet can have a massive impact on energy levels. Fat=energy, so if you are feeding anything with a high fat content, it's going to give your horse energy (Sometimes more energy than you would like them to have). That's why when you are having an issue with a horse being too 'hot' it's always important to take a look at what you're feeding. Something else to think about, that I just realized I failed to mention in my original post; It's also important that you consider the mare's living situation. If she is being kept stalled or in any relatively confined space (such as a small paddock or run.) that could also be contributing to her excess energy. If possible, it would be helpful if you could keep her turned out in a large field. Preferably with a few other horses that she gets along with. This way, she will have the ability to move, run and play. Hopefully, burning some of her excess energy on her own. If it's not feasible to keep her turned out 24/7, you could at least try turning her out for an hour or so before you ride her. Even if it's just in a large round pen, riding arena, or something similar. So she has a chance to stretch her legs and get rid of her initial 'turbo charge'.

Minx · July 2011

Jackdaw wrote:

VampireVenom wrote:

i was also told jumping might help her learn to rate herself a little

 No, no, no, 100X NO. That is probably THE worst idea I have ever heard. If you follow this advice, you are just going to end up with an even rushier horse and most likely injure yourself or your mare in the process. If you want to calm her down the first thing you need to do is look at your feeding regime. If she's getting too much grain, too much alfalfa, ect. that could definitely be contributing to the problem. Secondly, if you are doing any sort of gaming or speed work with this horse you need to give it a rest for awhile. She is going to need to go back to the basics and learn to only go the speed you specify. You need to also make sure that she has a VERY solid whoa. A runaway horse is extremely dangerous and if she hasn't run off with you yet you're lucky, because it seems to me she may be headed that direction. How solid is her stop? Will she stay in gait for you? If you ask for a walk will she maintain a walk until cued to increase speed? If not, that is the first thing I would work on. Ask her for a quiet, controlled walk. If she attempts to break gait and go into either a trot or a canter take her in a tight circle immediately until she calms down and returns the the pace that you set. Do this until she will reliably stay at a walk. Then repeat the same exercise at a trot. This may take quite a few sessions to accomplish. When she reaches the point in her training that she will stop reliably and walk and trot at a consistent pace dictated by you only then should you progress into cantering her. By canter I do not mean letting her run all out in full gallop like she just broke from the gate at the derby (something I'm assuming she has gotten away with in the past and will try to get away with again.). Before you ask her to canter, I would long trot her for quite some time, circling, changing directions and just generally trying to get her focused and engaged. When she is calm, relaxed and listening to your cues only then should you ask her to canter. Make sure you have light contact with the reins and are ready to take corrective measures if she tries to run off with you. Give her the cue to canter and as soon as you feel her building speed and getting out of hand break her back down to the trot and circle, circle, circle. Once she calms down and starts listening again ask her to canter. If she runs off with you again, go back to circling at the trot. If it's impossible to break her down from canter to trot once she takes off I have another method that may work but I would try this first. I believe I saw some someone mention ground poles? Ground poles can also be helpful to rate speed and teach a horse to move in a rhythmic, consistent pace. However, I would still work on the things I listed above before implementing ground poles. Otherwise, I believe she would probably just learn to tear across them at lightening speed and not really gain anything for it. But what ever you do, no jumping and no speed events. That will only compound the problem further and you will end up with a truly dangerous and mentally fried horse. Just a bad idea all around. I would also strongly recommend you find a competent trainer or instructor to help you along. As this could potentially turn into a real problem if not handled correctly.

I meant jumping her in th future. Not any time soon. For the feeding. She is only gettin a small bit of feed a day and some hay. Nothin crazy and its worked well for my other show mare and she hasnt done anything crazy on the same feed so unless Rosie is just crazy with all grain then i dont believe thats it. She was on different grain for a period of time and she didnt change a bit. She has been trained for barrels but im definitally NOT running her or anything. Her stop is pretty much amazing but her slow down in gait is what has me fried. Basically i ride her every day at a walk and trot. She does try to break gait, mostly at a trot. This is usually when i immediately make her trot tight circles until she slows down then i stop her, straighten her out, and ask for a slow trot again. She definitally isnt a run away, she just doesnt rate. She understands pressure on the reins as bend at the pole. I usually try the pressure and release tactic while saying "hold up" and sometimes she will slow down her gait but its not very ground into her mind yet. I have yet to lope her though i have when she breaks gait but i cant tell her no and she will break back down into a trot though she usually throws a fit. So thats when i make her bend her face in both directions and make her stand still (she hates that... the standing still) And i dont plan on letting her run away (even though im sure its never planned). As i said she has a VERY solid stop. You say the word whoa and she drops her hips and stops immediately. I dont plan on letting her run full out either. If its one thing i cant stand it is someone who isnt able to control a horse at a gait but still doing so. I have yet to get her out of a trot because though i can control her at a trot i still want to solidify what ive already taught her before i rush into running. When i DO get her loping if she goes faster than i cue for she will be doing lots of circles and standing still until she slows her speedy little butt down. I have three trainers helping me with her actually. Well.. two trainers and a breeder but she also does some training on the side. Theyve all given me pretty much the same advice as you have and ive been following it. The one who rode her for me last(i was at a lesson on my paint because we have a show coming up this weekend) told me the only problem she saw with her is her inability to rate but that she has smooth strides (when she collects) and a really solid stop and turns without any pressure to the mouth. Ive been letting her out at night in my arena to run around and stretch her legs before i ride her each morning and its really not doing her much good at all. I did chance her from an o ring snaffle to a broken curb with shanks and she likes the bit soo much more. Shes definitally not crazy or anything wild like that. She's extremely spookproof (first day i rode her my father was using power tools next to my arena and she didnt even look at him) and her groundwork is impecable. She's only four so i hope with constant work on rating and a little bit of age might slow her down a little more though i doubt she will ever be a beginner horse.

Mileysmybaby · July 2011

I forget, do you show in Barrels at all vamps?

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Miss Rosie!!

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