Why does no one want my services(free or otherwise?) :/

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• Alabama

  November 2013 74.240.65.73

  Those people who have 30 million have taken years to earn it. They didn't get that way in one or two or six months. <br><br>Most of the things you are offering are things people can do for themselves, have done for themselves or already have, so they don't need to buy or get from you. The players most likely to want to take advantage of your offers will be new players, who don't generally visit the forum much. Make use of Bark Park and direct them here to see.<br><br>The only exception is sharing the sponsor kennel which is something highly discouraged by Ops. It could get you into trouble without trying and the same for the person sharing your kennel. If someone on the kennel does something wrong, you both run the risk of having all your kennels banned indefinitely. Most players on the forum know this and will only share a kennel with someone they've known for a long time and trust completely.<br><br>Really the best/fastest way to earn money is learn how to train and offer that kind of service, especially since you have a sponsor. The training connect section has several players looking for trainers. Note that most will want someone who can demonstrate they know how to train, so you might need to practice on your own dogs for a while. <br><br>Find a player who is looking for someone to event dogs for them. I think Mac Cat has been advertising almost constantly on Bark Park for someone to enter events for them. <br><br>Bid on dogs in events that place well a good portion of the time. This is a gamble, but that's the point. Look through a certain type of event and see who has dogs that finish in the top 3 a good part of the time, then look at their dogs to see who has been placing the best recently.<br><br>Have patience, earning money takes a while until you learn the ropes. If you do good with training, more people will be willing to let you train for them, meaning more money.

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• Aziu

  November 2013 71.220.84.127

  It takes a lot of work to get even 10 mil VPC. Just give it time and patience.<br><br>In the meantime, keep a close eye on the 'Wanted' section of the forums and the BarkPark. Players will advertise what they are looking for - see if you can fill those niches. For example, I am looking to buy any Doberman Pinscher that a player is willing to sell me (advertised in both the Wanted section and BarkPark.) So, if in the course of your rescuing activities you get some Dobies in, send me a message at <a href="http://virtualpups.com/index.php?r=vpKennel/view&id=550"; target="_blank" class="bb-url">http://virtualpups.com/index.php?r=vpKennel/view&id=550</a>. Finding small jobs like those and doing many of them does build up over time.

  
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• Melrose437

  November 2013 184.148.24.191

  I also don't know if you offer this or might be interested but eventing dogs for other players will pay handsomely if you have the time. A simple event and return where you enter one dog in example all field retrieve events can give you depending on how you price 30 k. <br><br>This is just a thought since I also offer lots of services once in a while

  
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• MrClean

  November 2013 174.98.193.248

  <span style="color:#400080">I think Alabama and Aziu have given good answers to your question. I will say though, that selling dogs is a slow way to make money (unless you have something special like a PB, or the first 10x4 of a breed, or something like that). Also, you should take into consideration that VP has its own "economy" and like every economy supply and demand go in cycles. I haven't been seeing too much interest in graphics at all recently (compared to times where everyone is looking for layouts and dog pics/banners), and there seem to be more people selling dogs right now than buying. And as far as renting your kennel out...it is true that it can be dangerous sharing kennels, and so most people only share with people they've known for a while. But besides that, most players share training kennels (to make vpc) or breeding kennels (to work on lines). Most wouldn't pay to share a rescue kennel since it's hard to make real profit.<br><br>It's not necessarily that nobody wants what <span style="font-style:italic">you</span> have. At the moment we're in more of a "buyers market", people looking for goods and services have plenty to choose from so selling is very competitive. I think Aziu made a great point: Try to offer what people want, rather than hoping people will want what you offer.<br><br>In my experience, training and showing are the best ways to make regular vpc income in a substantial way. As Alabama mentioned, you'll need experience to really make money on training. Showing is much easier to get into without any special knowledge or experience. Get a couple of strong event dogs, and let them earn you vpc and fame. You can sell fame points, and you can use the vpc your dogs earn you to buy more event dogs, and build up like that.</span>

  
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• Aliemac

  November 2013 24.20.88.163

  Melrose437 wrote:

  I also don't know if you offer this or might be interested but eventing dogs for other players will pay handsomely if you have the time. A simple event and return where you enter one dog in example all field retrieve events can give you depending on how you price 30 k. <br><br>This is just a thought since I also offer lots of services once in a while

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  Alabama wrote:

  Find a player who is looking for someone to event dogs for them. I think Mac Cat has been advertising almost constantly on Bark Park for someone to enter events for them.

  <br><br>Feel free to PM me I almost <span style="font-style:italic"><span style="font-weight:bold">always</span></span> need event and returns done.<br><br>I also have some good potential events I would let you show which could bring in a ton of money for you if your interested. Feel free to PM me anytime, I'm almost always need something <br><br>The most money I've ever had on here is 65million, and most of the time I'm at around 15 or 20mil. I'm a trainer, so I can always make a quick buck by grooming for someone and my boarding kennel brings in a pretty steady cash flow at around 200 boarders. What makes me the most money (other than training) is lines. If you can breed a fist 10x4 of a breed or get the highest stat of a breed you can sell them for a pretty good price. Show dogs are also great. Some of my dogs make up to 20k per event.<br><br>*Edit* Also remember, if your trying to save money, don't by anything that you don't need or won't help you make more money.

  
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• caninesrock

  November 2013 edited November 2013 107.193.133.201

  Most of the things you are offering are things people can do for themselves, have done for themselves or already have, so they don't need to buy or get from you. The players most likely to want to take advantage of your offers will be new players, who don't generally visit the forum much. Make use of Bark Park and direct them here to see.

  <br>If someone doesn't have a rescue kennel, they can't heal their own dogs or rescue dogs. And there<br>was a topic awhile back where someone offered a service of finding and rescuing dogs and it went well<br>for them apparently according to their comments. It was a name-your-price thing though and not set <br>prices like my services are so maybe that's my problem? And not every has GIMP or Photoshop or knows how<br>to make photomanipulations even if they do. It took me along time to learn how to recolor realisticly<br>in GIMP. But I never thought of the Bark Park. Thanks for that tip. I will try posting about my services on the Bark Park.<br><br>

  The only exception is sharing the sponsor kennel which is something highly discouraged by Ops. It could get you into trouble without trying and the same for the person sharing your kennel. If someone on the kennel does something wrong, you both run the risk of having all your kennels banned indefinitely. Most players on the forum know this and will only share a kennel with someone they've known for a long time and trust completely.

  <br>I was reading about it and it didn't seem to be against the rules? Is it against the rules to share? Sorry. I didn't know. I don't want to get in trouble for sharing. <br><br>

  Really the best/fastest way to earn money is learn how to train and offer that kind of service, especially since you have a sponsor. The training connect section has several players looking for trainers. Note that most will want someone who can demonstrate they know how to train, so you might need to practice on your own dogs for a while.

  <br>I've heard people claiming that the only kind of sponsors that make money are sponsor trainers and while I do have a sponsor and I do want to make money, I enjoy rescuing dogs and I only have one sponsor so would have to give up rescuing dogs in order to be able to train.<br><br>

  Find a player who is looking for someone to event dogs for them. I think Mac Cat has been advertising almost constantly on Bark Park for someone to enter events for them.

  <br>I thought I did. I answered an ad for someone who wanted someone to event dogs in the wanted section and they said they'd hire me along with another player,but they never contacted me back<br>sent me any contracts, or responsed when I ask if they were still interested in me eventing for them,yet the other person apparently they did contact because that person posted saying they had finished the eventing <br>and returned the dogs. So, I guess maybe they changed their mind about sending dogs to more than one person for eventing? Oh,and right now, I only have 67 in Dog Handling so I need to raise it to 100 I think before<br>most people would want me to event their dogs because doesn't how much handling skill you have effect how well dogs do in events?<br><br>

  Bid on dogs in events that place well a good portion of the time. This is a gamble, but that's the point. Look through a certain type of event and see who has dogs that finish in the top 3 a good part of the time, then look at their dogs to see who has been placing the best recently.

  <br>I tried placing bets,but quit because I was losing money even when the dogs I bet on where the dogs with the highest numbers of wins,shows, and places and at the highest level and seemingly the most likely to win. For example, I bet on a National event dog that had won first play over 1000 times,but the dog that won that event was a novice or<br>junior(I don't remember which) that had won no more than 20 times. <br><br>

  In the meantime, keep a close eye on the 'Wanted' section of the forums and the BarkPark. Players will advertise what they are looking for - see if you can fill those niches. For example, I am looking to buy any Doberman Pinscher that a player is willing to sell me (advertised in both the Wanted section and BarkPark.) So, if in the course of your rescuing activities you get some Dobies in, send me a message at <a href="http://virtualpups.com/index.php?r=vpKennel/view&id=550"; target="_blank" class="bb-url">http://virtualpups.com/index.php?r=vpKennel/view&id=550</a>. Finding small jobs like those and doing many of them does build up over time.

  <br>I've been checking the wanted section. I've replied to what I can. I just rescued some dobermans and I posted a link to my rescue in your topic. Thanks.^^<br><br>

  I also don't know if you offer this or might be interested but eventing dogs for other players will pay handsomely if you have the time. A simple event and return where you enter one dog in example all field retrieve events can give you depending on how you price 30 k. <br><br>This is just a thought since I also offer lots of services once in a while.

  <br>I don't specifically have this listed as a service,but I am intersted and willing in doing this. The only thing is I have to event dogs myself a little more until I have enough fame points to get my dog handling skill up to 100. Right now its at only 67 percent.<br><br>

  I think Alabama and Aziu have given good answers to your question. I will say though, that selling dogs is a slow way to make money (unless you have something special like a PB, or the first 10x4 of a breed, or something like that).

  <br>I wish I had enough real-life money for a private breed. If only then I'd not only have a PB for my own enjoyment,but I'd be rich since I seen that they can be sold for 20 mil a piece. And I think most breeds I've looked at/have, have already reached 10x4 if I'm not mistaken.<br>

  Also, you should take into consideration that VP has its own "economy" and like every economy supply and demand go in cycles. I haven't been seeing too much interest in graphics at all recently (compared to times where everyone is looking for layouts and dog pics/banners)

  <br>So it's not just me and nobody liking my graphics? People aren't wanting to buy graphics from anyone right now? And there's a chance that eventually people will start wanting graphics again and then I'll be able to make money of my graphics,but I just have to give it time?<br>

  and there seem to be more people selling dogs right now than buying.

  <br>I guess because most people have too many dogs and are trying to get rid of them. I know I have too many myself,but I'm finding it hard picking out which ones to get rid of.<br>

  And as far as renting your kennel out...it is true that it can be dangerous sharing kennels, and so most people only share with people they've known for a while. But besides that, most players share training kennels (to make vpc) or breeding kennels (to work on lines). Most wouldn't pay to share a rescue kennel since it's hard to make real profit.

  <br>That's too bad. I really like being a rescue,but it seems the only kind of sponsor worthwhile and that anyone can actually make money from is a training sponsor and maybe possibly a boarding kennel.<br><br>

  It's not necessarily that nobody wants what you have. At the moment we're in more of a "buyers market", people looking for goods and services have plenty to choose from so selling is very competitive. I think Aziu made a great point: Try to offer what people want, rather than hoping people will want what you offer.

  <br>What do people want(besides training which would involve me having to change my kennel type)?<br><br>

  In my experience, training and showing are the best ways to make regular vpc income in a substantial way. As Alabama mentioned, you'll need experience to really make money on training. Showing is much easier to get into without any special knowledge or experience. Get a couple of strong event dogs, and let them earn you vpc and fame. You can sell fame points, and you can use the vpc your dogs earn you to buy more event dogs, and build up like that.

  <br>I do event some of my own dogs a little. Mostly I am working on breeding/improving my own lines of breeds I like,especially Sulimov Dogs as only one other person has them besides me and although they have reached 10x4s with them I pmed them about the Sulimov Dogs and they never responded back to me so I don't think they are willing to sell or give-away any. Mine are still less than 1x4 as I had to start with import.(edit:info corrected. I haven't reached 1x4 yet. I must've been thinking of a different breed as I'm working on several breeds at once.)<br><br>

  Feel free to PM me I almost always need event and returns done.<br><br>I also have some good potential events I would let you show which could bring in a ton of money for you if your interested. Feel free to PM me anytime, I'm almost always need something

  <br>I am interested in eventing the dogs for you. ^^ Thanks.<br><br>

  The most money I've ever had on here is 65million, and most of the time I'm at around 15 or 20mil. I'm a trainer, so I can always make a quick buck by grooming for someone and my boarding kennel brings in a pretty steady cash flow at around 200 boarders. What makes me the most money (other than training) is lines. If you can breed a fist 10x4 of a breed or get the highest stat of a breed you can sell them for a pretty good price. Show dogs are also great. Some of my dogs make up to 20k per event.

  <br>How long did it take you to reach that amount? I am working on several breeds right now. Most notably, the Sulimov Dog as mentioned above. Another player already has 10x4,but they don't appear to be willing to sell any of their dogs and I am the only other player on here who is working on Sulimov Dogs as far as I know and once I get them up to atleast 7x4, I would be willing to sell them.<br><br>

  *Edit* Also remember, if your trying to save money, don't by anything that you don't need or won't help you make more money.

  <br>I try not to,but gifties are so addictive and tempting. :oops:

  
  
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• Meeko1

  November 2013 50.72.12.166

  PM me when you get the chance, I've got a job that you could do

  
• caninesrock

  November 2013 107.193.133.201

  Meeko wrote:

  PM me when you get the chance, I've got a job that you could do

  <br>PMing now. Thanks. ^^

  
  
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• MrClean

  November 2013 174.98.193.248

  <span style="color:#400080">You actually do not need to have 100 in handling skill to do event & returns. You only need handling for dogs that are in your kennel when the events run. Think of it in terms of real life... Doing enter & return is basically like signing someone else's dog up for an event, but unless you're the one actually handling the dog in the ring/arena, you don't need any special skills :-) Also, you can still event dogs in canine disc and racing, even if you don't have any handling skills. So maybe focus on those events for now (for your own dogs) to help get your fame up. I would be willing to lease you some event dogs for these events, just let me know if you're interested 8) <br><br>As far as "healing" dogs goes...I'm not sure if you're referring to the vaccination or healing the dogs in your rescue kennel. Either way, it's not really a service anyone would use. You can only heal the dogs in your rescue kennel, you can't heal other people's dogs. And vaccinations don't actually do anything, and have no effect on the game. So there's no reason for anyone to pay for it.<br><br>You don't <span style="font-style:italic">have to</span> switch from being a rescue kennel. It's just that training is a quicker way to make money (but not by any means the only way). You could just focus on eventing your dogs, and use that as your main source of income without having to give up rescuing. Or, you can try to see if someone would share their rescue kennel (if you feel comfortable sharing kennels) that way you can still rescue, and you can change your own kennel to make some vpc. Then once you have a decent amount, switch back!<br><br>There are lots of breeds that haven't reached 10x4. Check out <a href="http://virtualpups.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=72139"; target="_blank" class="bb-url">this post</a> and pick a breed that isn't on the list. Of course, it's only updated once and a while and sometimes not everybody posts, so you should check the breed you're considering before getting started. (You can go through the breed for rescuing purposes and check stats at the same time!) But beware, without your own breeding and training kennels, this can be an expensive project! Maybe look for a partner that has their own training kennel to cut down on costs.<br><br>I don't think people just don't like your graphics. I offer photo manip services too, and have a variety of customers and many repeat customers, but I have gotten very few orders recently (none in the past couple weeks). Sometimes it's just like that, it's nothing personal and there's no reason to be discouraged :-) Of course, the more you practice and the more skills you learn, the more professional your graphics will look and the more likely people will choose yours (there are other players offering graphics).<br><br>As far as what people want, that changes every day! Check the Wanted forums and the Bark Park for people looking for services.</span>

  
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• Nacie

  November 2013 70.139.75.248

  I am always looking for someone to do pictures for my dogs - and I have a lot that need them! However, I do not like filling out forms and I do not like having to look for pictures for the artist to use. So if you (or anyone else) really wants constant work, pm me - I will give you some general guidelines and you will have a way to make VPC for as long as you wish or until you get tired of making pictures. :-) . . . . I have stopped posting on people's topics about artwork cause I have found that for the most part, the people stop playing and/or stop doing the art so I just leave my dogs without pictures. (I have people that have promised pictures of my dogs well over a year ago and have never done them)