What do you get when you get a sponsorship?

caninesrock · September 2013

What all do you get when you buy a sponsorship? I know you get extra vpc for all sponsorship levels and can make 3 of your kennels into different kinds of specitiaty kennels for the year and life-time sponsorship levels. And I think someone said you could actually get dogs without having to buy them off of other players. And I know you can have up to 10 accounts if you have a sponsorship. And that you can have unlimited dogs and breeding. Is there anything else I'm forgetting or don't know about?

Alabama · September 2013

When you get a year or lifetime sponsor, you get 3 changes of kennel type to one account. You don't get 3 different sponsors. So on one account, you can be a training, then change to a rescue and then change to a breeding, for example. You get more skills which allow your kennel to do better in 2 of the following: training, breeding, business and/or handling. You do get imports that you can use to bring dogs into the game without using another player. You get unlimited turns and breeding and a little extra cash. You can have up to 9 novice accounts for each sponsor, so 10 accounts total including the sponsor. Otherwise, the kennel specialties and the perks for each of them are listed here near the bottom <a href="http://virtualpups.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=69946"; target="_blank" class="bb-url">viewtopic.php?f=25&t=69946</a>

caninesrock · September 2013

Alabama wrote:

When you get a year or lifetime sponsor, you get 3 changes of kennel type to one account. You don't get 3 different sponsors. So on one account, you can be a training, then change to a rescue and then change to a breeding, for example. You get more skills which allow your kennel to do better in 2 of the following: training, breeding, business and/or handling.

So, the people on here where I see they have one prestige kennel, 1 rescue kennel, and 1 breeding kennel,for example, have paid for 3 different sponsorships then? :?

You do get imports that you can use to bring dogs into the game without using another player. You get unlimited turns and breeding and a little extra cash. You can have up to 9 novice accounts for each sponsor, so 10 accounts total including the sponsor.

On the sponsor account, you can also have an unlimited number of dogs? Right? But on the 9 novice accounts you can get with the sponsor, the 20 dog limit, 25 breedings limit, limited turns,etc. still holds? Can you import any breed you want(besides private breeds of course)? And this is a little un-related,but is the Sulimov Dog a private breed? The breed suggestion topic doesn't list it as a private breed,but when I do a search in the Puppy Plaza, even though there are about 350 Sulimov Dogs,they all belong to the same person.

Otherwise, the kennel specialties and the perks for each of them are listed here near the bottom <a href="http://virtualpups.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=69946"; target="_blank" class="bb-url">viewtopic.php?f=25&t=69946</a>

In a rescue kennel, can you adopt some of the dogs you rescued yourself? And can you choose what breeds you want to rescue?

Aziu · September 2013

caninesrock wrote:

So, the people on here where I see they have one prestige kennel, 1 rescue kennel, and 1 breeding kennel,for example, have paid for 3 different sponsorships then? :?

That is correct.

On the sponsor account, you can also have an unlimited number of dogs? Right? But on the 9 novice accounts you can get with the sponsor, the 20 dog limit, 25 breedings limit, limited turns,etc. still holds? Can you import any breed you want(besides private breeds of course)? And this is a little un-related,but is the Sulimov Dog a private breed? The breed suggestion topic doesn't list it as a private breed,but when I do a search in the Puppy Plaza, even though there are about 350 Sulimov Dogs,they all belong to the same person.

On the sponsor account, for now, you may hold unlimited dogs. Any novice kennels associated with your sponsor still have the limitations of a novice kennel (limited breedings, turns, dogs.) You may use your unmade imports on your sponsor kennel to import any public breed. The Sulimov Dog is available for public import. Since it is not a very popular breed, it may be that only one player has taken an interest in them and thus owns the majority.

In a rescue kennel, can you adopt some of the dogs you rescued yourself? And can you choose what breeds you want to rescue?

You cannot adopt dogs from yourself however you can choose to move dogs from your rescue kennel to your main kennel (which is still part of a sponsor rescue kennel.) You may rescue any breed you choose, it's just a matter of finding dogs that have been abandoned for 6 months+.

caninesrock · September 2013

That is correct.

Oh. Ok.

On the sponsor account, for now, you may hold unlimited dogs.

For now? Are you guys thinking of changing it?

Any novice kennels associated with your sponsor still have the limitations of a novice kennel (limited breedings, turns, dogs.)

I figured that was the case but just wanted to make sure.

You may use your unmade imports on your sponsor kennel to import any public breed.

Oh. Ok. How many imports are allowed per sponsorship? Do they come with the sponsorship or do you have to pay extra for them? And what's the difference between an unmade import and a made import? Can you choose the number of stars your imports have, like could you import a 10x4 dog? Oh,and I noticed mutts that are imports aren't neutered and can actually be male and female. Would their offspring be male and female too or would any dogs bred from the import mutts become neutered just like normal unimported mutts would be, thus making it impossible to make a line of mutts? And why do mutts always come out neutered unless they are imported?

The Sulimov Dog is available for public import. Since it is not a very popular breed, it may be that only one player has taken an interest in them and thus owns the majority.

They don't just own the majority. They own all 354 of them. I had alot of time on my hands the other day and looked at every single Sulimov Dog in the Puppy Plaza in what kennel they were in to see if there were any that had been sitting in a kennel for more than 6 months that I could rescue if I got a rescue kennel sponsorship,but they all belong to the same person who was just on that account in September.

You cannot adopt dogs from yourself however you can choose to move dogs from your rescue kennel to your main kennel (which is still part of a sponsor rescue kennel.)

Oh,by adopt, I didn't mean to actually pay the 250. I actually guess what I meant to ask was if you could keep some of the dogs you rescued for yourself instead of putting them up for adoption? Sorry for the misunderstanding. I should've made myself more clear. Lol. XD

You may rescue any breed you choose, it's just a matter of finding dogs that have been abandoned for 6 months+.

I've already got my eye on a couple of dogs that have been sitting in a kennel since April. So,they should be eligible for rescue. Right? I think they've been in there since April 1 if I remember right.

Punk Rabbit · September 2013

caninesrock wrote:

 Oh. Ok. How many imports are allowed per sponsorship? Do they come with the sponsorship or do you have to pay extra for them? And what's the difference between an unmade import and a made import? Can you choose the number of stars your imports have, like could you import a 10x4 dog? Oh,and I noticed mutts that are imports aren't neutered and can actually be male and female. Would their offspring be male and female too or would any dogs bred from the import mutts become neutered just like normal unimported mutts would be, thus making it impossible to make a line of mutts? And why do mutts always come out neutered unless they are imported?

You get 20 Unmade Imports when you upgrade your account and can use them to make any public breed. It is physically impossible to get a 10x4 Import - that's the idea, they're completely unrelated to any dog in the game but their stats are terrible and it takes a lot of training and careful breeding to get 10x4. I think their puppies would be un-neautered? I've never bred any mutts and I haven't seen them being bred because they don't sell XD Mutts are bred neutered because the site doesn't want irresponsible breeding. A mutt litter more or less tarnishes a pedigree - much like IRL kennel club breeders. Think of it like a Mule effect - those who breed mutts INTENTIONALLY breed them only for eventing and nothing else

caninesrock · September 2013

You get 20 Unmade Imports when you upgrade your account and can use them to make any public breed.

Ok. Thank you. So the thing to buy imports in the Goodies link is if you want to buy extra imports to add on to the imports you already got with your sponshorship upgrade then?

It is physically impossible to get a 10x4 Import - that's the idea, they're completely unrelated to any dog in the game but their stats are terrible and it takes a lot of training and careful breeding to get 10x4.

Oh. Ok. So you don't get to choose the stats then?

I think their puppies would be un-neautered? I've never bred any mutts and I haven't seen them being bred because they don't sell XD

I've bred a couple of mutts but only of breeds that make sense. I wanted a Dingo Hybrid so I bred a dingo to an Australian Cattle Dog and I bred a Coyote to a Siberian Husky because I wanted a Coydog. They of course came out as neutered mutts though. And alot of the mutts in the Puppy Plaza for sale are strange combinations that make no sense,but some actually make sense and are even sold as designer dogs in real-life like I saw a Chichau(sp?)-Yorkie mutt once which are sold as designer dogs called Chorkies in real-life and I saw an Alaskan Malamute-Siberian Husky mutt which in real-life are bred as designer dogs called Alusky. I almost though about buying the Alusky mutt from the rescue for a bit,but then changed my mind since right now I can only have a limited amount of dogs since I'm only a novice.

Mutts are bred neutered because the site doesn't want irresponsible breeding. A mutt litter more or less tarnishes a pedigree - much like IRL kennel club breeders. Think of it like a Mule effect - those who breed mutts INTENTIONALLY breed them only for eventing and nothing else

Oh. I just thought that if they weren't neutered, then you guys wouldn't have to deal with people constantly requesting designer dog breeds such as Border Jacks, Border Kelpies, Border Staffies,Borgis,Buggs,Chiweenies, Chowlies, Cockaliers,Dalbradors,Doberdanes,German Shepradors,Goberians,Huskimos,Jack-a-Poos,Labranees,Maltipoos,Schnoodles,Shih-Poos,Yorktese,made up breeds based on what kind of dog they have in real-life such as the Akiback Bulldog, and other designer dogs or real-life mutts they own "breeds" that may be suggested in the future, being suggested in the breed suggestion topic all the time because then people could just breed mutts of these crosses themselves and have their essentially mutt "breed". Just a thought,but even if the mutts of one domestic breed of dog to another domestic breed of dog are never changed to being un-neutered is it even a possiblity that coyotes,dingoes, all the various types of wolves, and other wild canids in the game when bred to another breed of domestic dog would be able to produce un-neutered mutts or maybe a seperate breed just called "Hybrid" in general that would be breedable any time in the near future or has it already been decided that even hybrid mutts(i.e. Mutts with coyote heritage or dingo heritage for example) are not desirable and will always be neutered? I don't really understand the mule analogy though because in real-life, breeds of dog are still both the same species and are still fertile,but mules are from two different species in real-life and really are sterile. And why can you get a Wolf Hybrid as a breed but when you breed a Timber Wolf to a Siberian Husky in here for example, it comes out as a neutered mutt instead of a breedable Wolf Hybrid dog?

Punk Rabbit · September 2013

Ok. Thank you. So the thing to buy imports in the Goodies link is if you want to buy extra imports to add on to the imports you already got with your sponshorship upgrade then?

Yeah, you can buy extra imports for your kennel through the 'goodies' section. When you purchase Imports they will appear immediately on your kennel and you return to the homepage and it should have a dropdown menu of breeds to import

Oh. Ok. So you don't get to choose the stats then?

Unfortunately not... You will get dogs with stats like the dogs in the breed description pages. It will say things like 'breed average - 2 stars' etc. I will warn you now, if you plan to Import to reach 10x4 then do not pick dogs with only one star in their hyper - even two stars is difficult. There is a glitch which prevents some of them from reaching 10x4 if their stats are one star.

I've bred a couple of mutts but only of breeds that make sense. I wanted a Dingo Hybrid so I bred a dingo to an Australian Cattle Dog and I bred a Coyote to a Siberian Husky because I wanted a Coydog. They of course came out as neutered mutts though. And alot of the mutts in the Puppy Plaza for sale are strange combinations that make no sense,but some actually make sense and are even sold as designer dogs in real-life like I saw a Chichau(sp?)-Yorkie mutt once which are sold as designer dogs called Chorkies in real-life and I saw an Alaskan Malamute-Siberian Husky mutt which in real-life are bred as designer dogs called Alusky. I almost though about buying the Alusky mutt from the rescue for a bit,but then changed my mind since right now I can only have a limited amount of dogs since I'm only a novice.

If they're not registered as breeds they will not come out as any sort of hybrid. Mixing ANY dogs on the site will produce mutts - It's like if I bred and American Akita with an Akita Inu the breed IRL would be known as a 'Tweenie Akita' or just an Akita - but on here, they will just be Mutts. People tend to breed mutts with random combinations to see if they can do it like a Great Dane and Chihuahua etc. It's kinda of pointless and many people on here spend thousands cleaning up the mess. I'm not going to get into the subject of 'designer dogs' IRL because it aggrivates me XD

Oh. I just thought that if they weren't neutered, then you guys wouldn't have to deal with people constantly requesting designer dog breeds such as Border Jacks, Border Kelpies, Border Staffies,Borgis,Buggs,Chiweenies, Chowlies, Cockaliers,Dalbradors,Doberdanes,German Shepradors,Goberians,Huskimos,Jack-a-Poos,Labranees,Maltipoos,Schnoodles,Shih-Poos,Yorktese,made up breeds based on what kind of dog they have in real-life such as the Akiback Bulldog, and other designer dogs or real-life mutts they own "breeds" that may be suggested in the future, being suggested in the breed suggestion topic all the time because then people could just breed mutts of these crosses themselves and have their essentially mutt "breed". Just a thought,but even if the mutts of one domestic breed of dog to another domestic breed of dog are never changed to being un-neutered is it even a possiblity that coyotes,dingoes, all the various types of wolves, and other wild canids in the game when bred to another breed of domestic dog would be able to produce un-neutered mutts or maybe a seperate breed just called "Hybrid" in general that would be breedable any time in the near future or has it already been decided that even hybrid mutts(i.e. Mutts with coyote heritage or dingo heritage for example) are not desirable and will always be neutered?

^^ All of the above are mongrels - no matter what way you look at it. You take one pedigree dog and breed it with another pedigree dog - it will be a mutt because it doesn't have a pedigree nevermind a 5 generation pedigree which is desirable. I really don't see the point in spending hundreds of pounds/dollars on a pet you could essentially pick up at a rescue or save one of the thousands of pedigree animals in rescues. It is adding to the amount of animals that are routinely destroyed in pounds because of irresponsible breeding... which is what happens on here too. As I said before there are members dedicated to rescuing and releasing these dogs (pedigree or not) because the bottom line is there is not enough demand for them. Also, I will add that this site is run on a load of complicated codes and already it is stretched with the amount of members and changes that are added all the time - to add the coded that would allow complicated pedigree breedings (Like adding wolf dna from six generations back) would cause chaos and would possibly disrupt the whole site code. This is why PB's are so expensive, because it takes quite a bit of modding and codes to add them and buy the site space. (No offense to people that have mixed/designer dogs! I'm sure they make great pets but do you see my logic?

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I don't really understand the mule analogy though because in real-life, breeds of dog are still both the same species and are still fertile,but mules are from two different species in real-life and really are sterile. And why can you get a Wolf Hybrid as a breed but when you breed a Timber Wolf to a Siberian Husky in here for example, it comes out as a neutered mutt instead of a breedable Wolf Hybrid dog?

I meant just think of them as that on here. We have Werewolves are Cereberus on here too - could you consider them as the same breed? It's easier on the coding. If it makes it easier, just think of it as the actual site that's neutering the puppies like a shelter would to prevent any more accidental litters and more mutts being created. If you would like a wolf dog, you would have to purchase it as a personal breed. ANY dog on here when bred together will produce a mutt as it's population control, pedigree control, responsible breeding and there are wolf hybrids as a breed already if you want one so there's no point in breeding two dogs of different breeds together to create something that already exists.

Alabama · September 2013

caninesrock wrote:

Oh,and I noticed mutts that are imports aren't neutered and can actually be male and female. Would their offspring be male and female too or would any dogs bred from the import mutts become neutered just like normal unimported mutts would be, thus making it impossible to make a line of mutts?

Any mutt born in the game will be nuetered. Imports are not born in game. I guess, if you wanted to get imaginative, you could say they are born in a different virtual world and brought into/imported to Virtual Pups.

ColorfulEmoRabbit wrote:

There is a glitch which prevents some of them from reaching 10x4 if their stats are one star.

There is no glitch to be found any longer. The glitch that was existing was fixed. This doesn't mean they aren't harder to get to 10X4 than breeds with more stars in hyper, it is probably harder, but all breeds can reach 10X4.

Punk Rabbit · September 2013

Alabama wrote:

 There is no glitch to be found any longer. The glitch that was existing was fixed. This doesn't mean they aren't harder to get to 10X4 than breeds with more stars in hyper, it is probably harder, but all breeds can reach 10X4.

Wooop woop! Hallelujah!

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