New Dog?

Shibagirl · June 2011

I'm considering getting a new dog to show in conformation. I'd like a chance to have a puppy and raise it to show. I'm looking for and AKC registered breed that would be between 16-23 inches tall. A dog that'd also be good with families and a 4 year old and easy to groom. One that wouldn't need constant exercise, but not one that's 100% lazy either. I'm thinking a Bull Terrier, but I need other suggestions too. Breed suggestions?

Finster2 · June 2011

Hmm..Bull Terriers sound pretty good to me. I'll try and think a little more about a breed that may be right for you.. EDIT: What about the Shetland Sheepdog? The do to tend to herd people and require a lot of grooming, but sound pretty good.. By the way, it's my dream to be able to show a dog!

Frostbight8 · June 2011

A female German Shepherd would stand 22-24 inches high, and they are good with kids once a relationship is established. Fairly easy to groom. Should be brushed twice a week. But hey, I'm biased. German Shepherds are my favorite breed.

Shibagirl · June 2011

Shelties in my area for shows are way too popular, I almost got one once, great dogs but would be hard to get any wins on the dog unless it's 100% perfect XD And German shepherds are great, but I don't like the way they breed them for conformation, their backs and hips are just.. Bleh lol. If it were for another sport then I'd go for it.

Finster2 · June 2011

Oh, haha, I see! I'm not one for the roaching of GSD's backs either, and a working line German Shepherd isn't gonna do well for the ring. I'll keep thinking! Is there a certain breed group you like? (;

Frostbight8 · June 2011

There are different types of lines.. Working lines (these guys have a lot of energy and need some sort of job, or they'll find their own) and american show lines.. I'm pretty there are German ones too. But I don't remember where I read that information, anyway. EDIT The German Showlines have a lot of issues with roaching and angulation. The American Showlines are pretty clean, however. Yeah.. Their backing bothers me, too. They are extremely prone to hip dysplasia, too. Need to find a really good breeder for that issue. Their gait is what I love, and personalities.

Finster2 · June 2011

I know of a great website this describes all of the different German Shepherd lines there are, and a lot of breeds similar to them. I'll try and find it for ya, Frost. XD

Adrianna32 · June 2011

Golden retriever xD I just threw a random breed out there because they were on my mind and they are lovely. : )

Finster2 · June 2011

Wouldn't Goldenw be really popular in the ring? Just assuming. Popular breed, popular Showdog.. Eh.

Finster2 · June 2011

Frostbight8 wrote:

There are different types of lines.. Working lines (these guys have a lot of energy and need some sort of job, or they'll find their own) and american show lines.. I'm pretty there are German ones too. But I don't remember where I read that information, anyway. EDIT The German Showlines have a lot of issues with roaching and angulation. The American Showlines are pretty clean, however. Yeah.. Their backing bothers me, too. They are extremely prone to hip dysplasia, too. Need to find a really good breeder for that issue. Their gait is what I love, and personalities.

Hm.. American show-lines: <a href="http://neuermondeshepherds.com/yahoo_site_admin1/assets/images/Cade20Off20Shore20Racer.154184015_std.jpg"; target="_blank" class="bb-url">http://neuermondeshepherds.com/yahoo_si ... 15_std.jpg</a> <a href="http://www.klgsd.com/American Showline.jpg" target="_blank" class="bb-url">http://www.klgsd.com/American Showline.jpg</a> <a href="http://healthyhartmanpuppies.webs.com/Show GDS body.jpg" target="_blank" class="bb-url">http://healthyhartmanpuppies.webs.com/S ... 20body.jpg</a> German: <a href="http://www.ottogsd.com/images/Zamp1.png"; target="_blank" class="bb-url">http://www.ottogsd.com/images/Zamp1.png</a> <a href="http://www.cck9.com/blog/wp-content/uploads//2009/12/Show-line-German-shepherd-CCK9-Blog-300x234.jpg"; target="_blank" class="bb-url">http://www.cck9.com/blog/wp-content/upl ... 00x234.jpg</a> Did I get the wrong pictures? O.o

Adrianna32 · June 2011

Actually I don't see them to often when I compete. Besides, if you have the best who cares if there are others, that's the way I saw it when I started competing anyway. I walked in to the ring, took one look around, and was not afraid of the competition AT ALL. (sorry for the cocky tone). Goldens are a very popular breed though, in general, but so are GSDs, although the show lines are remarkably beautiful. IDK what to tell you, I could throw out some amazing uncommon breeds for conformation if you didn't have that standard. ; ) It was just a random suggestion though.

EmmeZoec · June 2011

Border collies!!!!! If you have a shorter coated one they do great but arnt a popular breed for conformation

my BCs are hyper couch potatoes that never need grooming!

FlyTM · June 2011

Finny wrote:

Frostbight8 wrote:

There are different types of lines.. Working lines (these guys have a lot of energy and need some sort of job, or they'll find their own) and american show lines.. I'm pretty there are German ones too. But I don't remember where I read that information, anyway. EDIT The German Showlines have a lot of issues with roaching and angulation. The American Showlines are pretty clean, however. Yeah.. Their backing bothers me, too. They are extremely prone to hip dysplasia, too. Need to find a really good breeder for that issue. Their gait is what I love, and personalities.

 Hm.. American show-lines: <a href="http://neuermondeshepherds.com/yahoo_site_admin1/assets/images/Cade20Off20Shore20Racer.154184015_std.jpg"; target="_blank" class="bb-url">http://neuermondeshepherds.com/yahoo_si ... 15_std.jpg</a> <a href="http://www.klgsd.com/American Showline.jpg" target="_blank" class="bb-url">http://www.klgsd.com/American Showline.jpg</a> <a href="http://healthyhartmanpuppies.webs.com/Show GDS body.jpg" target="_blank" class="bb-url">http://healthyhartmanpuppies.webs.com/S ... 20body.jpg</a> German: <a href="http://www.ottogsd.com/images/Zamp1.png"; target="_blank" class="bb-url">http://www.ottogsd.com/images/Zamp1.png</a> <a href="http://www.cck9.com/blog/wp-content/uploads//2009/12/Show-line-German-shepherd-CCK9-Blog-300x234.jpg"; target="_blank" class="bb-url">http://www.cck9.com/blog/wp-content/upl ... 00x234.jpg</a> Did I get the wrong pictures? O.o

Holly heck who breeds GDS that bad? its why I don't wanna own one IRL due to backs looking like that -.-' (Sorry for the High-Jack.) in the "american lines" its the same in england too, as I'v seen but don't go at me if I'm wrong its the information I have found. Not starting anything but I'v seen a vid where their back legs can't walk right and the dogs still win best in their group? which means they breed from that poor dog =.=

Frostbight8 · June 2011

It can be pretty ridiculous, rather sad, actually. And Finny, it's just in general. You're always going to have those bad breeders.. But, different websites, and books, different opinions and information. You win. Now there, is one of the better GSDs I've seen <a href="http://www.google.com/m/search?site=images&client=safari&hl=en&gl=us&source=mog&aq=f&oq=&aqi=-k0d0t0&fkt=545&fsdt=12158&cqt=&rst=&htf=&his=&maction=&q=german+shepherd+roach+back#i=63"; target="_blank" class="bb-url">http://www.google.com/m/search?site=ima ... +back#i=63</a>

Kazuko · June 2011

Actually, Frost, it's the American lines that screwed them up. It's one of the main reasons why, when my husband's parents bred GSDs, they REFUSED to touch American-lined dogs. They also had the people purchasing their puppies sign a legally binding contract to never breed the pups to American-lined dogs. But I digress. So you want a semi-active, easy-going breed. English bulldog? A spaniel of some sort? Clumbers are pretty. Dalmation? Be careful with these, however. They were inbred like crazy when 101 Dalmations came out (EVERYone wanted one), so many dogs are blind/deaf now. EDIT: Shar-pei are pretty too.

Basenji Basset Hound Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever

lovefrompaige · June 2011

Kazuko wrote:

Actually, Frost, it's the American lines that screwed them up. It's one of the main reasons why, when my husband's parents bred GSDs, they REFUSED to touch American-lined dogs. They also had the people purchasing their puppies sign a legally binding contract to never breed the pups to American-lined dogs. But I digress. So you want a semi-active, easy-going breed. English bulldog? A spaniel of some sort? Clumbers are pretty. Dalmation? Be careful with these, however. They were inbred like crazy when 101 Dalmations came out (EVERYone wanted one), so many dogs are blind/deaf now. EDIT: Shar-pei are pretty too. Basenji Basset Hound Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever

I own a beautiful basset named Bonnie. She is a total character. You wanna get one that has a good face though. . . When you look at the parents of the pups, you'll know what I mean. We got my basset at our local shelter. I think she had been someone's dog who was bred to show but got away. . . Damn snowbirds -_- They aren't THAT active. It'll be your job to actually motivate them. But once you get them going, look out O___O They also really like food e.o But then again what dog doesn't? You might want to control their feeding. Bassests, for dogs their size, have the largest bone structure. They may have back problems later down in old age life and I believe, without googling, that their life span is around 11-12 years of age. I give the basset hound a Family dog: 4/5 <- never in your way yet loves to be held and is very socail when its not taking a nap Children: 5/5 <- every single child that Bonnie has ever come across she rolls over on her back like "love my belly!" haha Bassets are pretty good with them. Adaptation: 4.5/5 <- I live in one of the hottest cities in America and she is fine. Though if you live in a colder climate, make sure they are kept safe with paws and such Grooming: 3/5 <- bassets have this oily substance that can stink if you don't wash your dog enough. Also, they're prone to get things in their ears so clean those. Just a simple brush a week would do. Walks or out door activity: 3/5 <- I give it this because bassets are hound dogs and have the second strongest nose. When she puts her nose to the floor, watch her! She'll disappear on you before you know it chasing the scent. lol Pretty tamed on a leash. I didn't need to leash train her. I think that just came naturally to her. Overall good of a dog: 4/5 <- Bassets think that they're 2lbs one day when wanting on your lap, yet when you take them to the dog park, they think they're the biggest there. They do bark and howl a lot. Hound instinct. But its not bad. Its actually funny and I like to sing with Bonnie a lot. haha Great with family and people. Good with other dogs too and decent with cats, as long as shes not spooked by them first. I think you could do with a basset (:

Shibagirl · June 2011

Kazuko wrote:

Actually, Frost, it's the American lines that screwed them up. It's one of the main reasons why, when my husband's parents bred GSDs, they REFUSED to touch American-lined dogs. They also had the people purchasing their puppies sign a legally binding contract to never breed the pups to American-lined dogs. But I digress. So you want a semi-active, easy-going breed. English bulldog? A spaniel of some sort? Clumbers are pretty. Dalmation? Be careful with these, however. They were inbred like crazy when 101 Dalmations came out (EVERYone wanted one), so many dogs are blind/deaf now. EDIT: Shar-pei are pretty too. Basenji Basset Hound Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever

Dalmation, Shar Pei, and Basenjis don't sound bad either. And my other option would be to put my male Shiba for stud with the permission of his breeder and getting a pick of the litter instead of having a stud fee. As long as the breeding wanting to use him for stud pays all the vet checks and such XD

Adrianna32 · June 2011

Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever <

OhMaGosh I LOVE that idea! Have you even seen these dogs?? GORGEOUS.

Zagari Wolf · June 2011

I was going to say Staffordshire Bull Terrier or even an American Staffordshire Terrier. Both are in the height range and temperaments you asked for, both are amazing family dogs. They're in the same family as the Bull Terrier like you suggested for yourself. There is little to no grooming, just a bath every now and then. SBTs tend to be less dog aggressive than their American cousins but it's still there. Both show well in AKC but I hear ASTs are very competitive.

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