I HATE when people bring their little dog...

LaLa_Laru · February 2011

INTO THE BIG DOG SECTION OF THE DOG PARK!!! There is a sign that clearly states that all dogs going into the big dog section MUST BE 50 pounds and over. SO why do people think it's ok to bring their tiny little five pound dogs into the 50 POUND AND OVER area?? There are rules for a reason, you're only endangering your dog when you take them into an area they aren't supposed to be in. A little Pom was attacked in the big dog section today by a Rottie that was irritated with him, the damage was serious. The last thing I saw was the poor baby hanging limp in his owner's arms. I BLAME THE OWNER OF BOTH DOGS. The Rottie has bitten other dogs before, and the Pom was WAYYY under 50 pounds. Neither of the dogs should have been there. It's so stupid...why can't people just follow rules?? I mean, the little dog section is RIGHT NEXT TO the big dog section, why couldn't the owner walk a little ways more to put his little dog where it belonged? I've seen far to many dog attacks in the last week, wth is going on? And why the heck am I always a witness!!! ARGH!!!!

Shibagirl · February 2011

I find dog parks unsafe thanks to all the uneducated pet owners. This stuff annoys me as well.

Irian Jaya · February 2011

I Know.Dog fights and Stupid owners[No Offense if you take your dog to that Kinda Park];

Mileysmybaby · February 2011

I have never taken any dogs to the dog park. why go there when you can go on walks and play with it yourself or have your dog play with your friends dog(s) not some random person at the dog parks dogs and then get hurt (although all of my dogs were/are guard dogs so they would probably win XD)

KittKattize · February 2011

Mysterous Love wrote:

I have never taken any dogs to the dog park. why go there when you can go on walks and play with it yourself or have your dog play with your friends dog(s) not some random person at the dog parks dogs and then get hurt (although all of my dogs were/are guard dogs so they would probably win XD)

I would have to disagree with this, we take Clover to the dog park on a regular basis and although we have had a couple of altercations there was nothing serious. It's a great way to socialize your dog on a regular basis with all types of breeds and behaviors. Guard dogs should not really be taken to the dog park anyways unless leashed and muzzled.

NewfGirl wrote:

I find dog parks unsafe thanks to all the uneducated pet owners. This stuff annoys me as well.

Dog parks are not unsafe. It is your responsibility to have control over your dog. If there is a dog that is frequently attacking you can always ask the person to kindly control their dog and leave. They probably won't and I have seen people at my dog park have animal control called on them.

LaLa_Laru wrote:

INTO THE BIG DOG SECTION OF THE DOG PARK!!! There is a sign that clearly states that all dogs going into the big dog section MUST BE 50 pounds and over. SO why do people think it's ok to bring their tiny little five pound dogs into the 50 POUND AND OVER area?? There are rules for a reason, you're only endangering your dog when you take them into an area they aren't supposed to be in. A little Pom was attacked in the big dog section today by a Rottie that was irritated with him, the damage was serious. The last thing I saw was the poor baby hanging limp in his owner's arms. I BLAME THE OWNER OF BOTH DOGS. The Rottie has bitten other dogs before, and the Pom was WAYYY under 50 pounds. Neither of the dogs should have been there. It's so stupid...why can't people just follow rules?? I mean, the little dog section is RIGHT NEXT TO the big dog section, why couldn't the owner walk a little ways more to put his little dog where it belonged? I've seen far to many dog attacks in the last week, wth is going on? And why the heck am I always a witness!!! ARGH!!!!

I find this strange that they have separated the big dogs from the little ones. At the dog park I go to everyone gets to mingle and some of Clover's (Clover is 50lbs by the way) friends are Jack Russell Terriers/Miniature Pincher/Scotties... She plays well with them. She also plays with the bigger dogs and she is very well socialized. The problem is, people just take their dogs off leash and expect them to listen, they need to be exercised before playing with other dogs. Otherwise their energy comes out in their play, if they were walked first then some of that energy is burned off and their play is a little more calm. I will say that while my dog park is not perfect, the people who bring their dogs are not bad. Most are really friendly. It's unfortunate that you all have this view of dog parks being unsafe and stupid, because for those of us who live in the city it's one of the only places to let our dogs off leash and play in a nice green area.

LaLa_Laru · February 2011

I love dog parks. My dogs listen perfectly while they're at one. The problem is people that know that their dog isn't good with other dogs and they bring them anyway, they are what makes the parks dangerous... and parks can be dangerous. Dogs can be unpredictable sometimes.

LaLa_Laru · February 2011

Oh and some of my dogs that I take weigh over 200 pounds, they have a blast playing with little dogs. But while my dogs have control, other big dogs don't. Also, a big dog can easily kill a little dog with just a warning snap, hence the rules for seperation. I think the seperation rules are reasonable, before they were made there were a lot more incidents. I just think that if there are rules they should be followed.

LaLa_Laru · February 2011

At the dog park I go to everyone gets to mingle and some of Clover's (Clover is 50lbs by the way) friends are Jack Russell Terriers/Miniature Pincher/Scotties... She plays well with them. She also plays with the bigger dogs and she is very well socialized. The problem is, people just take their dogs off leash and expect them to listen, they need to be exercised before playing with other dogs. Otherwise their energy comes out in their play, if they were walked first then some of that energy is burned off and their play is a little more calm. I will say that while my dog park is not perfect, the people who bring their dogs are not bad. Most are really friendly. It's unfortunate that you all have this view of dog parks being unsafe and stupid, because for those of us who live in the city it's one of the only places to let our dogs off leash and play in a nice green area.

I agree with all of this. I live in the city too. Most of the people that bring their dogs are really friendly and understanding and over all good dog owners.

Shibagirl · February 2011

NewfGirl wrote:

I find dog parks unsafe thanks to all the uneducated pet owners. This stuff annoys me as well.

Dog parks are not unsafe. It is your responsibility to have control over your dog. If there is a dog that is frequently attacking you can always ask the person to kindly control their dog and leave. They probably won't and I have seen people at my dog park have animal control called on them.

LaLa_Laru wrote:

INTO THE BIG DOG SECTION OF THE DOG PARK!!! There is a sign that clearly states that all dogs going into the big dog section MUST BE 50 pounds and over. SO why do people think it's ok to bring their tiny little five pound dogs into the 50 POUND AND OVER area?? There are rules for a reason, you're only endangering your dog when you take them into an area they aren't supposed to be in. A little Pom was attacked in the big dog section today by a Rottie that was irritated with him, the damage was serious. The last thing I saw was the poor baby hanging limp in his owner's arms. I BLAME THE OWNER OF BOTH DOGS. The Rottie has bitten other dogs before, and the Pom was WAYYY under 50 pounds. Neither of the dogs should have been there. It's so stupid...why can't people just follow rules?? I mean, the little dog section is RIGHT NEXT TO the big dog section, why couldn't the owner walk a little ways more to put his little dog where it belonged? I've seen far to many dog attacks in the last week, wth is going on? And why the heck am I always a witness!!! ARGH!!!!

I find this strange that they have separated the big dogs from the little ones. At the dog park I go to everyone gets to mingle and some of Clover's (Clover is 50lbs by the way) friends are Jack Russell Terriers/Miniature Pincher/Scotties... She plays well with them. She also plays with the bigger dogs and she is very well socialized. The problem is, people just take their dogs off leash and expect them to listen, they need to be exercised before playing with other dogs. Otherwise their energy comes out in their play, if they were walked first then some of that energy is burned off and their play is a little more calm. I will say that while my dog park is not perfect, the people who bring their dogs are not bad. Most are really friendly. It's unfortunate that you all have this view of dog parks being unsafe and stupid, because for those of us who live in the city it's one of the only places to let our dogs off leash and play in a nice green area.[/quote] Dog parks ARE unsafe when uneducated owners are involved. It's no use having control over your dog if someone else doesn't have control over theirs unless you can leave very very quickly. You could have your dogs full attention sitting next to you and another dog could come up and attack them. It's happened to my dogs before. The only way to get out is to either get control of the other dog or get away fast, which neither is guaranteed to work. My friend had a dog that she took to the dog park, the dog was a great dog and stayed with her owner well. That's when another dog came along and my friend began to walk away with her dog on her leash, and the other dog attacked and bit her neck and she came very close to dying. She had to have surgery. I'm saying they're unsafe due to the fact that a lot of dog owners aren't very well educated. Not because I 'can't control my own dog'.

iluvdogs111 · February 2011

Personally, I wouldn't take my dog to a dog park. I can socialize and excercise my dogs in other ways. We have plenty of friends with dogs that get together with my pups often. I'm not trying to attack the people that enjoy dog parks, but in my opinion there are too many risks. Like Newfie said, there are tons of dog owners out there that can't keep their pets under control. Just because you're dog is well behaved doesn't mean the other dogs are.

Shibagirl · February 2011

Sorry that quote got messed up. My part of it starts on the third to last paragraph

KittKattize · February 2011

I guess I'm just lucky that the dog park I go to has some well behaved dogs.

iluvdogs111 · February 2011

KittKattize wrote:

I guess I'm just lucky that the dog park I go to has some well behaved dogs.

Yeah, I'd be a mess at a dog park. I'm very protective of my pets and would be more nervous than they would. Besides, the nearest dog park from me is a while away.

LaLa_Laru · February 2011

It's hard to find anyone that is willing to socialize their dogs with mine, even friends (because they generally weigh more then most people I meet). There is a dog park literally right next door to my home, that's why I take them. If I didn't they wouldn't be social and probably a huge threat to other dogs in my neighborhood because of their breed. I can train them all I want but it's common knowledge that socialization is needed with every dog, especially fighting breeds. I've pretty much socialized and trained the mean right out of them with the help of my dog park. My dogs love other dogs now, and although they've had a few incidents that weren't their fault I still think dog parks are great when used correctly. I have three guard dogs at home, even they love other dogs when they know it's socialization time and not guard time.

Kazuko · February 2011

It's fine if they little dog stays out of the way or can play with big dogs. But I was at the dog park for two hours. Fifteen little dogs were brought in over that span of time. Ten of them in two sets of five. These ten were MONSTERS. Growling, yelping, barking, snapping, chasing, starting fights with EVERYthing. Their owners wouldn't even let them off lead which causes MORE problems in the park. -_- We were trying to talk this Boerboel into going over there and sitting on them, but he just watched with this

look on his face. Then again, this is his normal face. xD Kira's not a small dog, 37lbs, but she romps with mastiffs, danes, pitties, bulldogs... Today she made friends with the boerboel, an adult male GSD, and a boxer. If your dog can't, there's a nice small dog park right over there. Use it. And same goes for children. KEEP YOUR CHILDREN AT HOME. You'd get upset if we let our dogs romp all over their playground. If they're behaved and don't chase the dogs screaming, great, bring them. But when you let your two year old wander halfway across the park to pester the ONE child-aggressive dog present... </rant>

LaLa_Laru · February 2011

Kazuko wrote:

It's fine if they little dog stays out of the way or can play with big dogs. But I was at the dog park for two hours. Fifteen little dogs were brought in over that span of time. Ten of them in two sets of five. These ten were MONSTERS. Growling, yelping, barking, snapping, chasing, starting fights with EVERYthing. Their owners wouldn't even let them off lead which causes MORE problems in the park. -_- We were trying to talk this Boerboel into going over there and sitting on them, but he just watched with this look on his face. Then again, this is his normal face. xD Kira's not a small dog, 37lbs, but she romps with mastiffs, danes, pitties, bulldogs... Today she made friends with the boerboel, an adult male GSD, and a boxer. If your dog can't, there's a nice small dog park right over there. Use it. And same goes for children. KEEP YOUR CHILDREN AT HOME. You'd get upset if we let our dogs romp all over their playground. If they're behaved and don't chase the dogs screaming, great, bring them. But when you let your two year old wander halfway across the park to pester the ONE child-aggressive dog present... </rant>

LOL. I love all of this. And I've had the same experience with little irritating ankle biters. My dog will generally tolerate little dogs, he just sits there and stares if they try to irritate him. But he weighs over 200 pounds, so once when they were really getting on his nerves he stuck out his paw and gently rolled one over. The little dog was terrified and he ran away. Medium sized dogs of about 35 pounds I think are ok to come into the big dog enclosure if they play well with them. But the really small dogs (15 pounds and under) I still don't think should be allowed in even if they are friendly and controlled. The big dogs where I Iive just get too hyper and can crush them, some of the bigger dogs will even snap. I'm only thinking about the safety of the smaller dogs when I say that rules should be followed.

Kazuko · February 2011

Yeah, I just feel that little dogs need to be socialized with large dogs, otherwise they never know how to act towards them. Kira got really sad today when this little 2lbs maltese mix wouldn't play with her... The thing kept trying to bite her, but Kira ignored that and kept licking it and bouncing back and rolling over and submitting to it and trying to lick it upside down. xD Kira's the most submissive dog at the park, easily, rolling over for everything. xD

LaLa_Laru · February 2011

Kazuko wrote:

Yeah, I just feel that little dogs need to be socialized with large dogs, otherwise they never know how to act towards them. Kira got really sad today when this little 2lbs maltese mix wouldn't play with her... The thing kept trying to bite her, but Kira ignored that and kept licking it and bouncing back and rolling over and submitting to it and trying to lick it upside down. xD Kira's the most submissive dog at the park, easily, rolling over for everything. xD

We have an enclosure that allows little dogs and big dogs to mingle, it's only for people that abslolutely trust their dogs though, I go in there sometimes. Your dogs personality sounds adorable. I had a 175 pound Bordeaux that would drop and roll whenever a dog even tried to sniff her...people would look at her like "wth??", someone stole her last year (dang her and her trust in EVERYONE). None of my other dogs are like that, they are always boss when they walk into our dog park, dogs will run up to lick their faces and automatically roll over to show submission. None of the people or dogs mind though, my dogs keep everything in check in a way, people have told me it's hectic when we're not around. I guess the feeling of being in a pack keeps the other dogs from fighting with each other. I've noticed that when two dogs get into a conflict of some sort one of my dogs goes up there and sniffs them both, the dogs will immediately stop fighting...as if they were told and they knew to listen. It irritated me at first, I didn't want my dogs to seem nosey and pushy. IDK..dogs are such strange and amazing creatures, lol.

iluvdogs111 · February 2011

LOL, maybe they should be protecting the big dogs from the small dogs. I found that small dogs are generally more grumpy and snappy than big dogs. A lot of big dogs are just big babies. I hate it when people carry around tiny little dogs like they're fashion accesories. Yeah, a big dog could hurt a little dog, whether purposly or accidently, but I think the little dogs are the ones with the big attidudes.

LaLa_Laru · February 2011

iluvdogs111 wrote:

LOL, maybe they should be protecting the big dogs from the small dogs. I found that small dogs are generally more grumpy and snappy than big dogs. A lot of big dogs are just big babies. I hate it when people carry around tiny little dogs like they're fashion accesories. Yeah, a big dog could hurt a little dog, whether purposly or accidently, but I think the little dogs are the ones with the big attidudes.

But thats why I think they should be seperated. Because little dogs tend to have attitudes bigger them themselves...which can get them in trouble when they're irritating a large animal 0.0 lol

iluvdogs111 · February 2011

LaLa_Laru wrote:

iluvdogs111 wrote:

LOL, maybe they should be protecting the big dogs from the small dogs. I found that small dogs are generally more grumpy and snappy than big dogs. A lot of big dogs are just big babies. I hate it when people carry around tiny little dogs like they're fashion accesories. Yeah, a big dog could hurt a little dog, whether purposly or accidently, but I think the little dogs are the ones with the big attidudes.

 But thats why I think they should be seperated. Because little dogs tend to have attitudes bigger them themselves...which can get them in trouble when they're irritating a large animal 0.0 lol

Yeah. Once I was at Petsmart where they have a doggy playgroup, and I saw a tiny miniature dachshund and a big doberman playing. The lady through the ball, thy both ran after it, the mini dach was about to get it but they just stood there staring at each other like, who's gonna get it? The mini was afraid to challenge the dobie's size, but the dobie was afraid to challenge his big attidude.

Kazuko · February 2011

Something happened today at the dog park that made me think of this. A six-week old retriever puppy was playing with a terrier, and got hurt. The puppy ran back under the table his owner was sitting under yelping. This caused almost every single dog in the park to go after it. The owner couldn't get his puppy out in time- two pit bulls and a boxer had grabbed hold of it. One of the pits, a skinny brown one, shook it and broke its neck. The owner sustained half a dozen bites. And get this, the owner of the pit bull who had shaken the puppy took their dog and just left. Didn't say a word to the owner, just up and left. Between this and Kira getting smacked hard enough to send her rolling a few feet away by some jerk off who didn't want her sniffing his leashed Sheltie, and the husky who got his mouth bitten fairly badly by one of the regular boxers, today was not a good day at the park.

iluvdogs111 · February 2011

Kazuko wrote:

Something happened today at the dog park that made me think of this. A six-week old retriever puppy was playing with a terrier, and got hurt. The puppy ran back under the table his owner was sitting under yelping. This caused almost every single dog in the park to go after it. The owner couldn't get his puppy out in time- two pit bulls and a boxer had grabbed hold of it. One of the pits, a skinny brown one, shook it and broke its neck. The owner sustained half a dozen bites. And get this, the owner of the pit bull who had shaken the puppy took their dog and just left. Didn't say a word to the owner, just up and left. Between this and Kira getting smacked hard enough to send her rolling a few feet away by some jerk off who didn't want her sniffing his leashed Sheltie, and the husky who got his mouth bitten fairly badly by one of the regular boxers, today was not a good day at the park.

Oh wow. Scary. Exactly why I don't take my dogs to parks. :shock: Are they going to do anything about the aggressive dogs and, more importantly, their owners?

Kazuko · February 2011

I've taken my dog to this park for months. This is the first time someone like this has happened. I believe they're now beginning to post park monitors, people who watch for signs of aggression and ask those owners to leave.

LaLa_Laru · February 2011

Kazuko wrote:

Something happened today at the dog park that made me think of this. A six-week old retriever puppy was playing with a terrier, and got hurt. The puppy ran back under the table his owner was sitting under yelping. This caused almost every single dog in the park to go after it. The owner couldn't get his puppy out in time- two pit bulls and a boxer had grabbed hold of it. One of the pits, a skinny brown one, shook it and broke its neck. The owner sustained half a dozen bites. And get this, the owner of the pit bull who had shaken the puppy took their dog and just left. Didn't say a word to the owner, just up and left. Between this and Kira getting smacked hard enough to send her rolling a few feet away by some jerk off who didn't want her sniffing his leashed Sheltie, and the husky who got his mouth bitten fairly badly by one of the regular boxers, today was not a good day at the park.

Oh my gosh, reading this just pissed me off. Does your park have rules with size?? If it doesn't then it should...this is exactly what I mean!! Poor baby, was his owner ok?? And if ANYONE smacked my dog for no reason all hell would break loose, not that anyone would actually risk smacking a 230 pound mastiff xP I'm sorry you had to see that, is your dog ok?

Kazuko · February 2011

His owner was bit up pretty badly. The cops and EMS were called in shortly after this all went down. I felt so bad for the guy... He'd had the puppy less than a week, and this was the first time he'd ever been to a dog park, just trying to do the right thing and start socializing his puppy young. There are no rules on size, but there is a small dog park that was added after the last puppy was killed, under a year ago. I just wish more people would use it...

Garnet · February 2011

Wow.. I used to have a dog that was half wolf and half chow and this is why I'm SO glad that I had him trained to leave other dogs alone unless I told him to get after them (only used when myself or friend was bout to be attacked by another dog). He wouldn't touch a small dog.. I actually had one dogin the neighborhood that would come into our backyard and play with my dog, Homie. I miss him sooo much. He passed away about 7 years ago

LaLa_Laru · February 2011

Eh...sorry about that. My uncle had a pure bred wolf that he got when it was a puppy, it always tried to bite and attack me cause I'm small, i think it saw me as prey 0.0 My dog is trained to attack on command too, shes a personal protection dog, and when he attacked me one day while I was just trying to get into the house she jumped on him and they had a HUGE fight, I kept telling her to get off of him and when she would he would bite her and drag her back into the fight. It was terrible, the wolf ended up running away and we couldn't find him for days, then we found him in the bushes right next to our house and we had to put him to sleep. My uncle was heart broken. *sigh* This is turning into a sad forum : | My dog wasn't too badly injured, I think its because he wasn't a wild wolf, if he was and he actually had known how to fight I know damages would have been a lot worse.

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