APBT.

SunnyDaysDontLie · February 2011

I'm going to make a lot of people mad here, and I don't want you guys to jump on my ass before I can make my point. It seems that lately, pit bulls have been the only dog on the news that have been attacking people. I believe that a few weeks ago, a little girl that was around 7 was killed, I believe, after the neighbors pit bull attacked her. And in Ohio, there have been a lot of pit bull attacks because many of the people from Cincinnati own a pit bull. I know that 9 times out of 10, it's the owner. Obviously, in this case, the owner. But you have to think about what pit bulls were raised for? As stated <a href="http://www.pitbulllovers.com/pitbull-articles/pit-bull-history.html]here"; target="_blank" class="bb-url">http://www.pitbulllovers.com/pitbull-articles/pit-bull-history.html]here</a>, pit bulls were raised and bred for fighting. Which means that it was passed down from generation to generation. Even though pit bulls are extremely sweet dogs, when they are placed into the wrong hands, their instincts that they originally had come back. A lot of APBT will attack unprovoked only for the police to find out that the dogs owners mistreated the animal. But, there have been unprovoked pit bull attacks. In Lancaster County, SC, two ten year old cousins were attacked unprovoked by two pit bul

SunnyDaysDontLie · February 2011

SunnyDaysDontLie wrote:

I'm going to make a lot of people mad here, and I don't want you guys to jump on my ass before I can make my point. It seems that lately, pit bulls have been the only dog on the news that have been attacking people. I believe that a few weeks ago, a little girl that was around 7 was killed, I believe, after the neighbors pit bull attacked her. And in Ohio, there have been a lot of pit bull attacks because many of the people from Cincinnati own a pit bull. I know that 9 times out of 10, it's the owner. Obviously, in this case, the owner. But you have to think about what pit bulls were raised for? As stated <a href="http://www.pitbulllovers.com/pitbull-articles/pit-bull-history.html]here"; target="_blank" class="bb-url">http://www.pitbulllovers.com/pitbull-articles/pit-bull-history.html]here</a>, pit bulls were raised and bred for fighting. Which means that it was passed down from generation to generation. Even though pit bulls are extremely sweet dogs, when they are placed into the wrong hands, their instincts that they originally had come back. A lot of APBT will attack unprovoked only for the police to find out that the dogs owners mistreated the animal. But, there have been unprovoked pit bull attacks. In Lancaster County, SC, two ten year old cousins were attacked unprovoked by two pit bul

And, so I can continue this post- the ones in Lancaster did not say that they were unprovoked, now that I read several articles on that. There was an unprovoked attack in Nashville. This woman was attacked unprovoked by a pit bull. [http://blog.dogsbite.org/2008/01/another-violent-pit-bull-mauling-in.html] My thing is, I love dogs. They're not my favorite, but I love dogs. No dog should be put into the wrong hands, but like chow chows [which are vicious dogs when in the wrong hands, also], you also need to think that no matter how domesticated, any dog is a wild animal. And any dog can bite unprovoked. It's not fair that they attack APBT's like they do, but they have just been in the news lately, and I wanted to share my thoughts on that, and their roots and why they act like they do in situations.

LaLa_Laru · February 2011

Any dog can be dangerous. I think the main reason why Pit Bulls are the ones that attack the most is because they are one of the most dangerous dog breeds that are put into the wrong hands most often. I don't know how I could word that any better so please excuse me if it doesn't make sense to you :|I think that 10 out of 10 times it is a person's fault that someone was attacked by a dog. Not closing a fence properly, not training them properly, not breeding them properly..so it's not always a owner's fault but I believe that it is ALWAYS a PERSON'S fault. I mean..people are the ones that created the breed in the first place right? Even if an attack is unprovoked, it is still someone's fault. Who's dog was it and why was in not being controlled or contained properly? I feel very strongly for this breed, I love these dogs, I even feel bad for the one's that are put to sleep because they are vicious and attacked someone, it's not their fault people bred them to be vicious. I don't believe in banning breeds, but I do believe that only certain people should be able to own this dog.

LaLa_Laru · February 2011

LaLa_Laru wrote:

Any dog can be dangerous. I think the main reason why Pit Bulls are the ones that attack the most is because they are one of the most dangerous dog breeds that are put into the wrong hands most often. I don't know how I could word that any better so please excuse me if it doesn't make sense to you :|I think that 10 out of 10 times it is a person's fault that someone was attacked by a dog. Not closing a fence properly, not training them properly, not breeding them properly..so it's not always a owner's fault but I believe that it is ALWAYS a PERSON'S fault. I mean..people are the ones that created the breed in the first place right? Even if an attack is unprovoked, it is still someone's fault. Who's dog was it and why was in not being controlled or contained properly? I feel very strongly for this breed, I love these dogs, I even feel bad for the one's that are put to sleep because they are vicious and attacked someone, it's not their fault people bred them to be vicious. I don't believe in banning breeds, but I do believe that only certain people should be able to own this dog.

And when I say I feel bad for the one's that are put down for being vicious, I don't mean that they shouldn't be put down. For the safety of everyone the vicious dog SHOULD be put down..but still, I feel bad.

iluvdogs111 · February 2011

I used to think pit bulls were not very dangerous at all. My friend absolutly hated every single one of them. She would turn away every time she saw one. Either way of thinking isn't good. I know now that pit bulls are one of the most, if not the most dangerous breed. I don't think owning a pit bull should be taken lightly. They are bred for fighting, and they can get aggressive. Inexperienced owners can cause not only the injury or death of an animal or human, but the death of their pet because they had to be put down. This goes with any dog, really. However, due to their instincts and what they were bred for, I'd say pit bulls especially need to be trained and raised correctly. I really think the owners are the biggest problem here.

LaLa_Laru · February 2011

I used to live in a place where Pit Bulls and Tosa Inus weren't allowed. I had both, but we were allowed to keep them if whenever they went out of the house (even into our fenced in back yard) we had to muzzle them and make them where a collar, choke chain, and a leash made out of chains. It was terrible, my dogs resented going on walks because they knew they would have to put all that crap on. We moved eventually.. and my Pit Bull was the sweetest thing, people in the neighborhood were actually sad that he had to go through all that and stopped coming out for walks..they missed him. I hate when breeds are banned.

RoyalRaccoon · February 2011

Honestly, I think both sides are wrong. I'm not going to buy into the media's intense focus on them to get ratings, and I'm not going to buy into the "blame the deed, not the breed" extremists that think pit bulls have no aggressive tendencies. Yeah, in a perfect world a pit bull has no aggressive tendencies, but we don't live in perfect, and very rarely, at least where I live, does the common pit bull or pit bull cross come close to the breed standard. I've been around extremely well bred pedigree pit bulls, and I've been around MANY average pit bulls. It's almost like they are two separate breeds, due to how badly backyard breeding has changed them physically and behaviorally. It's the same story for chihuahuas, which are the most popular breed in my state(pits are second). If you look at a chihuahua that has been carefully bred and raised by someone who knows what they are doing, then you got a nice little dog. If you look at the average chihuahua in California it barely resembles the standard at all, and the bad traits have been emphasized ten fold from bad breeding. So, as far as my opinion goes, most of these dogs that cause these problems aren't even worthy of their breed title, since they are so far beyond the standard. Labeling these poorly bred dogs as "pit bulls" is just hurting the breed as a whole, when the real breed can actually be a manageable, great pet in the right hands.

Beaglepaw · February 2011

Actually, I found out with research that 95% of pit bull attacks are not from pits, they are actually their identical twin, the American Stafforshire Terrier. The other 5% are Pit bulls. There is no such thing as the APBT, just the APB (American Pit Bull). It's complicated but let me explain. The American Pit Bull used to be America's dog. It marched in armies, and it was 97% of the dogs in america. But then, mixing a pit bull and a terrier, you get a Staffordshire. Which, is the identical twin of a pit bull. It is the one that does ninety five percent of attacks, though the one that attacked and killed my dog WAS a pitbull, I can tell the difference. See, it looks like a pit but has a few seperating features that, are barely different, but, alot of people confuse the two, therefore putting the guilt on the one that has the worst "rap". To tell them apart, A pit bull sometimes has pointy ears which are short(ish) and some have short , pointy ears with a flap (the top) curving down. The Staffy has prick, pointy, alert ears. There are a few more features, but that is the main way to tell them apart. So you see, only five percent of the so called "pit bulls" were really "pit bulls" who attacked. Though, like I said, it was a pit bull who attacked my Chihuahua. But, compare 95 to 5, yeah. Hope that wasn't complicated to understand...

^Oriyana^ · February 2011

The American Pit Bull Terrier has always been a terrier. They were developed in the early 19th century in the UK by combining Bulldogs and "bully" type dogs with terriers.

A pit bull sometimes has pointy ears which are short(ish) and some have short , pointy ears with a flap (the top) curving down. The Staffy has prick, pointy, alert ears. There are a few more features, but that is the main way to tell them apart

Both are born with the type of half pricked droop ear and both can have cropped or uncropped ears. <img src="http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images24/PitBullSpencerBlueNoseBrindlePuppy12WeeksWithCat.jpg"; alt="http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images24/PitBullSpencerBlueNoseBrindlePuppy12WeeksWithCat.jpg"; class="bb-image" /> APBT with natural ears <img src="http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images22/PitBullRescueBlufftonCRecycleBullsDice3Years.jpg"; alt="http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images22/PitBullRescueBlufftonCRecycleBullsDice3Years.jpg"; class="bb-image" /> APBT with cropped ears <img src="http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images6/ASTredMVC-223F.jpg"; alt="http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images6/ASTredMVC-223F.jpg"; class="bb-image" /> AmStaff with natural ears. <img src="http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images23/AmericanStaffordshireTerrierPacoPurebredDog.jpg"; alt="http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images23/AmericanStaffordshireTerrierPacoPurebredDog.jpg"; class="bb-image" /> AmStaff with cropped ears One source states "The difference between Pits and American Staffordshire Terriers is a difficult one. Even breeders can't agree. The main difference is the bloodline. Amstaffs are show dogs and dog fighters won't use dogs with Amstaff blood. As time progresses there will be more of a difference. Many are duel registered as Amstaffs with the AKC and Pits with the UKC." "The American Staffordshire Terrier, are generally of larger bone structure, head size and weight then their cousins the American Pit Bull Terrier." "After dog fighting was banned in the United States in 1900, two strains of these dogs were developed, a show strain and a fighting dog strain. The show strain was labeled the American Staffordshire, while the fighting dog strain was labeled the American Pit Bull Terrier. The two are now being recognized as separate breeds. Today the American Pit Bull Terrier is being bred with the same gentle qualities as the American Staffordshire Terrier. They both make great pets with the right kind of owner." Probably the biggest difference between the two is that the AmStaff is recognized by the AKC and CKC and therefore has a confirmed standard to conform to. APBTs tend to vary to a greater degree because in general the main focus of most breeders is not a standard set by a kennel club. Also as stated the general purpose of the two breeds diverged in the early 20th century. A breed can change a lot in 100 years. Just look at the difference in the modern Basset Hound compared to the Basset of 100 years ago :P

RoyalRaccoon · February 2011

Beaglepaw wrote:

Actually, I found out with research that 95% of pit bull attacks are not from pits, they are actually their identical twin, the American Stafforshire Terrier. The other 5% are Pit bulls. There is no such thing as the APBT, just the APB (American Pit Bull). It's complicated but let me explain. The American Pit Bull used to be America's dog. It marched in armies, and it was 97% of the dogs in america. But then, mixing a pit bull and a terrier, you get a Staffordshire. Which, is the identical twin of a pit bull. It is the one that does ninety five percent of attacks, though the one that attacked and killed my dog WAS a pitbull, I can tell the difference. See, it looks like a pit but has a few seperating features that, are barely different, but, alot of people confuse the two, therefore putting the guilt on the one that has the worst "rap". To tell them apart, A pit bull sometimes has pointy ears which are short(ish) and some have short , pointy ears with a flap (the top) curving down. The Staffy has prick, pointy, alert ears. There are a few more features, but that is the main way to tell them apart. So you see, only five percent of the so called "pit bulls" were really "pit bulls" who attacked. Though, like I said, it was a pit bull who attacked my Chihuahua. But, compare 95 to 5, yeah. Hope that wasn't complicated to understand...

Please do more research, or get better sources. A "pit bull" can be one of many dogs, technically. The American Staffordshire terrier, American bit bull terrier, American bulldog, Staffordshire terrier, and even the bull terrier can all be referred to as "pit bulls" depending on who you are talking to. "Pit bull" is mostly just a common term thrown around to refer to bull and terrier type dogs. You are false in saying that there is no such thing as an American pit bull terrier. Here is a link to the UKC website which lists the American pit bull terrier in the terrier group. <a href="http://www.ukcdogs.com/WebSite.nsf/Breeds/AmericanPitBullTerrierRevisedNovember12008"; target="_blank" class="bb-url">http://www.ukcdogs.com/WebSite.nsf/Breeds/AmericanPitBullTerrierRevisedNovember12008</a>; Now, the AKC does not recognize the "American pit bull terrier" as a separate breed from the American Staffordshire terrier(that's why some dogs can be registered as American Staffordshire terriers in the US, but at the same time be registered as APBTs in the UK), but regardless of whether you choose to view them as the same breed or seperate, both are still terriers. <a href="http://caninebreeds.bulldoginformation.com/american-pit-bull-terrier-history.html"; target="_blank" class="bb-url">http://caninebreeds.bulldoginformation.com/american-pit-bull-terrier-history.html</a>;

LaLa_Laru · February 2011

I was always able to tell the difference between a Am Staff and an APBT

I think it's obvious actually...

Mileysmybaby · February 2011

I do too lol they do look a bit different

I personally LOVE both, I hate that their attacking the whole breed because of some bad owners.

SunnyDaysDontLie · February 2011

I own an Australian Shepherd. He's a gorgeous blue merle dog, with one brown eye with a corner of it blue, and one ice blue eye. He has bitten me twice. The first time it was less of a puncture wound and more of an indention on my arm, and the second time it went almost completely through my hand. I could see tendons and I bled a lot. This dog is a herding dog, therefore they can be aggressive when provoked. Just like a German Shepherd, which is a great family dog. They really shouldn't attack the pits like they do, but they do, because every single news anchor hops on the bandwagon. I had no idea that there was a twin to the APB.

KittKattize · February 2011

Huskies have a tendency to bite small children. It's their natural instincts that come out. They like chasing/hunting small prey. What does a child screaming or crying sound like? A small animal maybe? I know with Clover we put a stop to that early because there are young kids in our apartment building and my fiancees nephews. I'm not saying that if provoked she's not going to do it, but it was more of the "I'm playing with you so I am going to use my mouth." It takes a lot of time and effort with a dog. To be on the safe side we put up a beware of dog sign. Clover is not vicious, but if someone was provoking her and she bit the sign is actually there to protect us and her.

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