Was Vp Sold?

BuffyBoarding · June 2010

Mkay so this is discussed in chat, and whether the Ops have the right to tell us or not, is their business. I see no reason why we wouldn't have the right to our opinions/etc. So I do not see anything wrong with me informing VP and posting this. I believe that we all have the right to know where our credit card information is going just in case something happens so... The chat convo: <Venom> So... Did nef sell vp to someone else? <Nickel> o.o <femme|artsy> huh? <Dodger> o.O <Lara-Train> o.o sold vp? <femme|artsy> *looks intently at buffy* <Venom> Well nef lives in TX... <Venom> And to order stuff now, it goes to Canada... <Venom> <a href="http://virtualpups.com/goodies.php"; target="_blank" class="bb-url">http://virtualpups.com/goodies.php</a>; <<Address at bottom of the page <Venom> So if the funding is going elsewhere, im guessing vp was sold or given away? <Lara-Train> maybe she moved <Azula> Nope. * Lyc licks dodge! <Azula> Still same phone number and everything. <Azula> I called her the other day. <femme|artsy> that's odd.. <Lara-Train> doesnt she give it to the most important O.p <Azula> It seemed like she didn't have the authority to fix anything anymore... <Venom> I think as customers we should have been informed if the game changed hands even if it was to an o.p <Azula> See... xD <Azula> I agree with buffy... <femme|artsy> should ask one of them... <Azula> Any ops online? <@VooDoo>; That would be up to Nef to discuss. It wouldn't be the place of the ops to discuss something of that nature. <Simm>

<Venom> Wow, I just believe that as customers everyone deserves to know. <Azula> Same. * femme|artsy wacks Lyc, this is something serious here. <Lyc> what?! <Azula> I mean we spend our money on here and have the right to know right? <femme|artsy> I agree as well. <@VooDoo>; Are you unhappy? or have received bad service? <Venom> I just personally believe that any changes in management, it should be the customers right to know where our money is going... <@VooDoo>; Well you definately have a right to your opinion

<Lyc> i'm slightly upset because i purchased tokens for a dye and and the tokens are stuck on OW <Xae|Art> That money should be refunded, without question <Azula> Mhm. <Xae|Art> otherwise it's no better than thievery, but have you emailed Nef about it? <@VooDoo>; I agree

have you sent in a message to support? <Azula> Nef doesn't have rule over anything anymore. The support decide whether or not to do something. <@VooDoo>; Did she say that? <Xae|Art> If support =/= Nef, then that would help wit OW much lol <Xae|Art> wouldn't <Xae|Art> but... <Lyc> i've just been waiting for OW and VP to connect again. I had those tokens there since feb. <@VooDoo>; If you get a support message in Lyc, I'm certain it will get taken care of. <Lyc> ok <@VooDoo>;

easy...just click support link right below the Fame Pts <Azula> Pretty much voo. <Xae|Art> Voo, are you not able to say whether or not Nef owns VP anymore? Just curious lol. <Xae|Art> I understand if it's not really your place <Lyc> ok, the first time i sent a ticket, i never got a response for it <@VooDoo>; If it was or wasn't the case it would definately not be my place to discuss it. I do understand your frustrations, but unless there is something you are unhappy about, I guess my best thing to say is patience. <Venom> Another vpian made a good point: If the gave was given away/sold how can we know whether to trust the new company with our bank records if we choose to buy products? <@Jelleh>; Guys, we cannot discuss it full spot. We ask you be patient <@Jelleh>; *stop <@Jelleh>; >.< <@VooDoo>; Well I haven't heard of any mass groups of people not getting their upgrades or dyes. In fact they're coming in faster than ever. <@Jelleh>; If you have a problem with the game, please use the support system I don't know what everyone else thinks, but something seems up to me. I will not be buying anything else from Orbis Games/VP until someone issues a statement of what is going on here. -buffy

HWRD2 · June 2010

I very much agree with you there buffy.

Evil · June 2010

I agree with you. I play both games and would like to know where my money is going at all times, and for us to be informed of any changes to the game. Not only have I noticed the changes in VP compared to the other games, I have noticed that my upgrades haven't come in after several weeks.

BuffyBoarding · June 2010

Whiney-- yupps Evil-- I know, i haven't been buying since the server change and OW being unlinked. I just think that everyone has the right to know what's going on and secrets and "I can't tell yous" doesn't really make any since when we are all loyal customers and alot of us have been for years.

Minx · June 2010

i agree! Its our right to judge if we trust who were sending our money and information too! The scret hush hushiness of it doesnt make them seem very trustworthy to me no matter who is running VP

Ruffian · June 2010

yeah I wonder too =/ On VHR it's still the old address.

CORY · June 2010

VampireVenom wrote:

i agree! Its our right to judge if we trust who were sending our money and information too! The scret hush hushiness of it doesnt make them seem very trustworthy to me no matter who is running VP

Agree'd :]

tarnish · June 2010

Hmm how interesting. I think we should know, but I am liking how things are being updated. xD

MadFarmPupII · June 2010

Buffy wrote:

 I just think that everyone has the right to know what's going on and secrets and "I can't tell yous" doesn't really make any since when we are all loyal customers and alot of us have been for years.

Spot on. I will not personally be buying from vp untill everything is explained to public. Fishy.fishy.fishy

Hibachi · June 2010

I haven't bought anything from VP in ages, especially with how VP has gone down now. And after Wert's post on dA. I'm only here to talk to friends and do things when I am bored. xD

BuffyBoarding · June 2010

tarnish wrote:

Hmm how interesting. I think we should know, but I am liking how things are being updated. xD

Yeah the updates are nice. I'm not complaining about them =P What i'm saying is even with updates, if my bank info gets stolen, updates are useless to me.

BuffyBoarding · June 2010

Something else I found interesting. Said by Alabama:

Sure, and just for the record, support is no longer handled through Orbis Worlds, but you can put a ticket in through the in game support and it'll be handled just as quickly.

I realize it's just talking about the new system but... OW worked just fine before. They never rehooked to the new server? Why is that? My guess? Because VHR is still owned by Nef and is hooked to OW.

Erra · June 2010

The only thing that bothers me is the lack of simple honesty about the whole thing. Just giving everyone a heads up and letting them know what was going on wouldn't be too hard - she already did updates on the main page of the game. It would have prevented all of this, at any rate. I'll be interested to see how this whole thing plays out.

Hibachi · June 2010

I'm guessing they thought we would never find out.

kitty_kat · June 2010

The only thing Im upset about is that we are not getting answers, I think its the least we should get considering alot of us have spent a small fortune on VP and deserve answers. I have had no problems with the upgrades and dyes in fact ive gotten them all in like 5 minutes like they said and i use pre-paid visa cards so not worried about soem one getting my info. I personally would just like a answer, a simple yes or now would work for me if they need time to give reasons thats fine.

VirtualPups · June 2010

Hey guys! Guess the cat is out of the bag

We were getting all the dust settled before announcing it to everyone, but I can assure and promise you that the new owners are really TERRIFIC and doing a great job on support and improvements and fixes. All major game fixes are only for the positive at the moment, such as paypal automation which I will soon also be fixing on VHR (still owned by Orbis). I was hoping we could get the new owners to come introduce themselves first, before you all found out before, but it seems you guys are clever! Anyhow, they will come introduce themselves very soon. And they are very cool, and you should have no worries or anything like that. Really you guys are going to get a lot more benefit out of this. The volunteer/game op team has known about this for a bit and been working with them and I think they can as well vouch for the new owners! So, no need to worry any - Now I know there will be tons of questions, I will answer them as I can. Also- Azura, I wanted the volunteers to investigate the matter first- as we would in any case in the old days too

VirtualPups · June 2010

ok, got in chat finally- I will be there to chat with you all/answer any questions

RoyalRaccoon · June 2010

I bought a kennel upgrade through paypal, and like it says in the update I got it instantly. It shocked me because I hadn't seen the update before I order the upgrade. I also resent a ticket from OW that was 160 days old(waiting on the game owner to answer it)through the main site, and it was answered and solved in less than 30 minutes I believe. I personally like the new system. Better service IMO, and all the trustable OPs are still around(I imagine they would leave if something wasn't right). If you're going through paypal then your bank information should be safe. I always use paypal so companies, trusty or not, can't see my info. Sites/companies shouldn't be able to just pull money off/through your paypal. You have to approve orders. Answers would be nice, but assuming VP was sold, then they could still be in the process of handing everything over. Maybe the new owner wants to make the announcement, but because of all the work associate with selling websites he/she is busy? I dunno. I'm trying to remain optimistic. EDIT: Should have hit preview to see if anyone posted while I was typing. lol, Nef confirmed my first thought.

Zagari Wolf · June 2010

I would like to know as well. This is the first time it's been brought to my attention. But now, my interest has spiked. I want to know what's going on as well. I don't like the hush hush that's going on. The ops know something because they said to be patient. I can be patient but I want an answer. I personally have not spent real money on any of the games for a long time but I have spent a small fortune on VP. I'm with the rest of you. I'd like to know where my money is actually going. edit: just saw Nef's post.

Alabama · June 2010

There was never any deception intended, at all. It was supposed to have been a gradual take over, as both Nef and admin2 and admin1 told us. With the new owners getting more used to the game and how it worked and fixing little things, upgrading others, while Nef continued to handle support and such. What concerned Ops was that a sudden change of hands would scare everyone, including the Ops. Many of us stayed only because Nef endorsed the new owners and intended to still be active with the game until such time and they took over and we all put stipulations that if they intended any major changes, we wouldn't be for it. What we'd, as Ops, hoped would happen would be that everyone could get accustomed to the fixes, upgraded forums, etc. That the Ops and the new owners could get used to each other and what each expected/wanted from the other and then, when the new owners announced themselves, the players would already having evidence of their good intentions and Ops could honestly report how they had been handling things. Not knocking Nef in the least, but Ari, the tech side of the team is just awesome. He's the one who has been fixing things. We see him on almost a daily basis and it's usually when he has another fix for us to watch and make sure there aren't unintended consequences. Most of the fixes, I doubt most players even noticed, such as spelling errors, correcting some coding to make things work better/faster. Some things you have noticed is the new support system, direct pay from PayPal, spelling fixes, increased ability for Ops to help with things like lost passwords. Usually, if there's something bad happening and we e-mail him, he answers within the hour. He does travel some, but since purchasing the game, there's never been more than a day that he's not checked in to make sure everything is going alright. Nate, we've not had a chance to really get to know yet, I think he's more the financial half of the team and has his own company that works with big games, like World of Warcraft and such, buying and selling player items for real life cash, from what I understand. The disconnect from OW wasn't meant to happen until the new owners were comfortable with the game and how it worked. It was supposed to have been a gradual take over, with Nef still handling the support side of things, but the new server simply could not communicate with Orbis Worlds at all. And when that happened, a lot of things had to happen faster than planned or expected, such as the support system. The only major upgrade I know that is planned is the forums, which have been in need of an upgrade for a long while. There's still a few coding issues that admin1 wants to iron out, such as the Next Page bug and the lag that still haunts the game on occasion, but I doubt anything else major will happen until the game itself is running smoothly.

Minx · June 2010

Thanks you guys for being truthful

I will DEFINITALLY miss Nef but as long as the ops are still here and support the new owner im definitally willing to support them as they begin to run the game. I would also like to think them for the great updates weve had so far =3

Alabama · June 2010

Just found their website that I had buried in chat logs. <a href="http://offleashmedia.com/"; target="_blank" class="bb-url">http://offleashmedia.com/</a>;

tarnish · June 2010

VampireVenom wrote:

Thanks you guys for being truthful I will DEFINITALLY miss Nef but as long as the ops are still here and support the new owner im definitally willing to support them as they begin to run the game. I would also like to think them for the great updates weve had so far =3

Nef said she will still be around.

Minx · June 2010

tarnish wrote:

VampireVenom wrote:

Thanks you guys for being truthful I will DEFINITALLY miss Nef but as long as the ops are still here and support the new owner im definitally willing to support them as they begin to run the game. I would also like to think them for the great updates weve had so far =3

 Nef said she will still be around.

Ill still miss her as the game owner though =D

tarnish · June 2010

Ah! I see your point. xD Maybe someone should put up some of the chat log later.

Minx · June 2010

tarnish wrote:

Ah! I see your point. xD Maybe someone should put up some of the chat log later.

That would be very helpful. I cant get on chat >.>

AaronTheAdmin · June 2010

Thanks for the introduction Shannon! So nice to speak with everyone in chat and a huge hello to all the players on the forum! Sorry for the delayed introduction:) admin1 is getting married this weekend YAY! and we were planning on saying hi and making the announcement after the weekend. But now is as good a time as any hehe!

I wanted to let everyone know that admin1 and I will dedicate our time, resources and efforts to continuing to run VP as you love it now. We will not be making any major changes in gameplay or rules and will be continuing to work with Nef and the rest of the Ops team going forward! Once we have a firm understanding of the technical issues, we'll eventually look to work on improvements and upgrades to the game and forums - based on everyone's feedback:) One of the first improvements that we had planned was based on feedback from Nef and the Ops, and we heard that it was long overdue. Over the next few weeks, admin1 and I will work towards an upgrade of the VP forum software! This forum software is very outdated and the new software should be a huge benefit to all our community! We're so thankful and honored for the warm welcome so far everyone! Very nice to meet you all and looking forward to get to know you all! If you have any technical or gameplay questions please feel free to email us at <a href="webmaster@virtualpups.com" target="_blank" class="bb-url">webmaster@virtualpups.com</a> Warmest regards! Nate and admin1

Garnet · June 2010

Welcome to VP admin2 & admin1

Iunno bout everyone else, but if Nef and our Ops believe in you guys and trust you to run this sight and make it better, then I'm behind you 100%!!

RoyalRaccoon · June 2010

Hey admin1 and Nate! Congrats on Ari's marriage! I'm so glad you are dog/animal fans. The biggest thing that worried me was new owners that weren't interested in what VP is, but I can see that is not going to be a problem. I really can't wait for a forum upgrade! I've been hoping, and looking forward to one for a long time.

AaronTheAdmin · June 2010

Garnet wrote:

Welcome to VP admin2 & admin1 Iunno bout everyone else, but if Nef and our Ops believe in you guys and trust you to run this sight and make it better, then I'm behind you 100%!!

Thanks for the support and warm welcome Garnet!!! Very nice to meet you:)

AaronTheAdmin · June 2010

PrinceSushi wrote:

Hey admin1 and Nate! Congrats on Ari's marriage! I'm so glad you are dog/animal fans. The biggest thing that worried me was new owners that weren't interested in what VP is, but I can see that is not going to be a problem. I really can't wait for a forum upgrade! I've been hoping, and looking forward to one for a long time.

Hi PrinceSushi! Yep we definitely are huge dog fans and will really be looking to work closely with the ops, shannon and you as players to tackle any problems and as we work towards game improvements as well! We'll be working on the forum upgrade in the new couple of weeks so please stay tuned! Great to meet you:)

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