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Hibachi · October 2009

I posted this on another forum and thought I would ask here too. I was surprised at seeing that some people said it was wrong to euthanize a dying animal.-facepalm- I came across this article: <a href="http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/is-spca-tampa-bay-a-no-kill-shelter-not-really/1027569"; target="_blank" class="bb-url">http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/is-s...-really/1027569</a> So basically that article infuriated me as I, just started volunteering at my local SPCA. They did not state one thing about how every spring several boxes FULL of kittens are dropped off because someone wouldn't spay/neuter their pet. Do they not realize how much time and effort is put into all these animals? The SPCA I volunteer at -is- a non-kill shelter, it was stated and hand written to us. We have well over 100 animals and two separate buildings they are kept in. However, they also told us that there are other SPCA's that have to euthanize animals due to the lack of homes and space. If someone is going to complain about it-then do something, because I haven't seen any of those "complainers" bettering the situation. I'm tired of seeing people buy an animal they can't take care of-don't get a pet if you cannot provide the proper care and will forget about it in a month. -_- So, to my questions. What are your views on "kill" and no-kill animal shelters? What are your views on euthanasia? Do you believe that "kill" shelters are in the wrong? Explain/Discuss, etc. Whoo. 8)

UnknownDreamland · October 2009

I'm actually a little bit against no kill shelters. My previous dog, Auzzy was in a shelter in West VA for one month, then transported to my state where he was in the same cage for three months before adoption. Thinking about it, it might have been part of his problem. Think about it, he was an aussie/wpg. There are certainly more hyper dogs than him. And large shelters such as the SPCA are hard put to find the time to get every dog the exercise they need. At least with kill shelters they put them down, and yes, dying or not, they are put out of their misery. If I ever adopt another dog(after my WPG, I assume, since they'd almost never end up in a kill shelter) I'll probably do it from a kill shelter. Yes, some SPCAs do euthanize due to space. I wish they could find some more foster care people to take them though. That would really eliminate a lot of "adopt-and-take-home-one-dog-and-end-up-with-another" situations. Because they're in a home environment. Not at cage. I am not against euthanasia of animals. Dying or not. I'm just against certain situations that lead to euthanasia.

Hibachi · October 2009

Dreamland wrote:

 There are certainly more hyper dogs than him. And large shelters such as the SPCA are hard put to find the time to get every dog the exercise they need.

I'm not sure how many volunteers we have, I'll ask. But the dogs usually have a yard to play in and they go on regular walks like a housed dog would. xD it's the cats we have more of than the dogs-I think we have about 15-30 dogs and about 60-70 cats. :shock: But other than that I agree, I'd rather them put to sleep then out on the streets.

UnknownDreamland · October 2009

The SPCA around where I live is a lot smaller then. C: It's one building for the adoption animals, the rest are training facilities, offices, and a vet thing. They only had two small dog runs for all their dogs. And it was their policy or something for it to be one at a time, I think.

Jellybeanjoe · October 2009

Ok, as euthanasia can be a controversial topic, I'm going to give my warning now. Keep this post nice and civil

If you attack someone's beliefs, force your beliefs down someone's throat, or break any rules, you will be facing serious consequences. Just because you feel passionately about something doesn't mean you have the right to ignore rules. That being said, as long as this post stays clean and civil, it will stay open

Zagari Wolf · October 2009

I'm going to be brief and to the point in my post. These are my opinions and that does not make them wrong or right. Remember that. I am not a fan of no-kill shelters. Can you really expect a dog that is in a shelter environment for one... two... three years to be the same stable dog that it was when it first went into the shelter? Something had to of happened in that animal's mind. I don't like them. Yes, I feel sorry for the animals that get euthanized in kill shelters. But then again, we do have an over population of pets. People need to spay and neuter their pets to prevent these euthanasias. I would rather adopt a pet from a kill shelter than a no kill shelter.

NickelbackLuver · October 2009

I don't support no kill shelters, yet I do to some standards. I don't like the kill shelters that give a dog one-two weeks... that just isn't fair at all. Like Zag said, however, if a dog is in a shelter for too extended of a time, it isn't fair either. This is why I support volunteers that take the time to walk dogs and get them out of their cages. This is why fostering is so important, as well. But, while I wish it were possible, there isn't a way to completely eliminate euthanasia. I am currently reading a book about "The No-Kill revolution" to write a report on the whole situation, actually, which is why this was kind of an ironic topic to be posted.

Hibachi · October 2009

Good point, zagari. I guess our shelter is one of the lucky ones, because a lot of teenagers in my area are willing to volunteer. And we have adoption events every weekend and when we have craft fairs or community events we go to those too. I don't think an animal should be kept in a cage for a long period of time as well, but at least they get a chance to find a home in the future. Our play areas are larger than most shelters, even the cats have huge little play areas. Not only that, but we are building on which means even more room for the animals. 8DD @Nickel; I've been thinking of doing fostering as well. ^^ But, have to talk to my parents about it, we already have a million animals. xD I will have to look into that book. Our Volunteer Moderator said that 10,000 SPCA animals where put to sleep...last year? I believe it was last year, sad but I'd rather that then living on the streets.

NickelbackLuver · October 2009

Yeah, I will do fostering later. I already have dogs and stuff to take care of, and I wouldnt want a poor foster dog to get thrown into my mess of spazzy dogs xD Yeah, the book is in favor of No-kill shelters. The author makes good points, but at the same time... its so far been mostly just dreaming of better days, rather than proving a logical point... I haven't gotten too far into reading it yet, however.

Hibachi · October 2009

What are you writing the report for? A class? o:

iluvdogs111 · October 2009

I support all shelters that try their hardest to find animals a a home and don't give up on them, whether they're kill or no kill shelters. I do agree with no kill shelters that keep the animals in a place where they don't have to be crammed in cages for months. The shelter we got our dogs from has a huge fenced in yard the dogs can safely run around in, unless they have dangerous behavior or health issues. However, if a no kill shelter is going to keep a dog for months and months, where it's in a cage, depressed and loney, I don't support it. I'd rather see a dog euthanized then live their whole life in a crowded shelter. At least then they don't have to suffer. As for kill shelters. I do not support shelters that euthanize an animal as soon as they get it because they do not have enough space. There are many shelters around that do have space, and would be glad to take another animal. If these shelters would just try to at least find another place that would take the animal, they wouldn't have to euthanize them. And I don't support shelters that euthanize an animal just because it didn't get adopted right away. Just because an animal is older, or has a little health problem, or some behavior issues, doesn't mean it doesn't deserve a chance to find a home and a family. I believe that all aninmals should have a shot at a forever home. As for euthatnizing beacause of health problem, if it's causing pain to the animal, or can't be healed, I agree that the animal should just be put out of it's misery. These are just my opinions, I'm not saying that any of you are right or wrong.

BuffyBoarding · October 2009

I agree with about everyone here to an extent. Something that some people don't know is that "No kill" shelters will ship their dogs out to "kill" shelters after a period of time, so they are not technically "killing" the dog, but the next shelter is... I think this is so that they don't "look bad". The shelter in my hometown gives the dogs five days to be claimed by the owner (if picked up on the street) and then seven days to get adopted (if the owners doesn't claim them, or they were surrendered). This to me is very unfair to all animals. There was a festival in my town last month and the shelter brought every dog out that they had (a total of five) Tax payers just built a new facility for the animal shelter that holds up to fifty dogs and seventy five cats, but yet animals are still euthanized after seven days. This gives most animals no chance of being adopted. Some shelters are run right, but alot aren't in my opinion. I don't honestly believe that there is much difference between "kill" and "no-kill" shelters. I guess it all depends on the specific shelter in question.

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