'Pro'

Parker · February 2009

The term 'Pro' is used a lot on VP and I'm just curious what actually makes some people a 'pro.' I'm thinking it's a lie some people use to make some people think they're getting better quality items? What do you guys think?

CORY · February 2009

I agree with you. A lot of tings are marked 'Pro'. Or breeding the best / training the best is used a lot.

TheDogHandler · February 2009

Meeh. If mine aren't then.. oh well. =// This just appeared after I posted my thread .. so.. :oops:

Parker · February 2009

TheDogHandler wrote:

Meeh. If mine aren't then.. oh well.

What qualifies them as being pro or not being pro is my question? Personally I would assume someone who is a pro has a degree in like Graphic Design or something.

TheDogHandler · February 2009

Um . Idk.. but there are people claiming things to be done on mybannermaker.com pro .. so idk =/

Parker · February 2009

That kind of stuff just bugs me. We should all come up with a community agreed definition of pro and other words that could be misunderstood.

TheDogHandler · February 2009

Yeah, that's a good idea.. but everyone has different ideas of pro i guess?

Parker · February 2009

Whats your definition?

TheDogHandler · February 2009

Well, something that looks professional.. something idk. something that looks like effort has been put into it, not something thrown together in paint. Yours?

Parker · February 2009

Definitely not something made with a website like you were talking about, and definitely not something made in paint. Maybe something made by someone who has more than a year of experience making graphics on VP?

TheDogHandler · February 2009

Exactly. Maybe someone who has made more than 3 graphics? .. calling them pro after they finished 3.

Parker · February 2009

or someone with experience with banners and manips or banners and pictures or banners and drawings or something. Y'know, specialty in multiple items that doesn't use paint that has been making graphics on VP for 3 months +?

katie2794 · February 2009

paint products, aren't always that bad, sometimes if you woork hard on MS paint you can get a really nice outcome just saying

Parker · February 2009

I know a girl who was extremely talented with paint, but people that try to pass off crap things made in paint as being pro is just right.

TheDogHandler · February 2009

Yup. Someone who also puts a copyright on their work and their work only! Not finding a piece of art from google and stealing it... shoving their copyright on it and selling it for big money. >.> ^^ That really gets me mad.. :evil:

Parker · February 2009

or even stealing their photos from google rather than using royalty free images. That's against the law and people post it on here as pro. :roll:

TheDogHandler · February 2009

Maybe we should start a list of RF image sites... or is that against VP rules?

Jazz · February 2009

Unless you make REAL LIFE money, not just VPC, off of your services, then I don't consider you a pro, even if you're really good.

Parker · February 2009

There's a list here, along with a big explanation of the difference between copyright and RF images. <a href="http://virtualpups.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=57861"; target="_blank" class="bb-url">http://virtualpups.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=57861</a>;

TheDogHandler · February 2009

Yeah that's a good post .

Parker · February 2009

Anyone have any other potentially controversial words?

xtraordinary · February 2009

Not a word, but I find it odd that people don't really care about crediting brushmakers.

Jazz · February 2009

Jazz wrote:

Unless you make REAL LIFE money, not just VPC, off of your services, then I don't consider you a pro, even if you're really good.

rohesia · February 2009

well people on sites other than VP credit texture and brush makers, its just here, because this isnt a graphics community, entirely. VP does not centre around its graphics, and ergo, it isn't quite as important as it is on actual graphic communities. Not crediting brush and texture makers is more or less harmless, as you do not make profit from using them. and yes, professional is when you make real life money off of your services. IE, working with a graphic design company, or selling your services to a company.

Parker · February 2009

It's also not a thing that many people push for. Image copyright is the big thing that VP pushes its artists to do. If more people pushed for brush copyright, it'd happen.

xtraordinary · February 2009

Yeah, it's true that nobody really notices. I've always thought of it as on the same level as crediting stock pictures though.

Parker · February 2009

Until people start pushing the issue on VP, I don't see anything happening about it. =/

SummerMoon · February 2009

1. I stopped considering my layouts/banners pro a long time ago, because I don't think graphics should be considered "professional" unless the person who made it, has actually taken a course for it, gets money for working for it, etc. etc. Otherwise I really don't think they should be considered pro. 2. I used to blend the name of the brush makers and the owners of the images I used into my banners, but it got to be too much and I really didn't see the point in blending their names in, if you couldn't see it. So now I stick with royalty free images, and only use brushes where the artist doesn't ask to be credited ;D

UnknownDreamland · February 2009

ROYALTY FREE IS NOT FREE! I'm sorry for the caps, but honestly! People aren't getting it! Corbis IS NOT free. Royalty free simply means that you pay one price for an image and are allowed to reuse it without further charge, like a logo.It. Is. Not. Free. To answer the question.. Pro is short for professional. Professional means to gain profit from your work. Real life money.

Parker · February 2009

Dreamland wrote:

 To answer the question.. Pro is short for professional. Professional means to gain profit from your work. Real life money. [/size]

Then why do people use it on here for a different meaning?

UnknownDreamland · February 2009

Perhaps they don't understand. Perhaps by profit they think any profit. Real or not. Others just like how it sounds even if a kind soul seeks them out to prevent their embarrassment. Yet they ignore the gesture.

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